SS poweramp for stereo effects, who uses?

[El Chiguete]

Who uses SS poweramp for stereo effects? I'm talking about running on one side your normal tube amp and for the other side of the stereo effects out a SS poweramp so you can have a full stereo rig?

[pianoguyy]

A wise old man once said to me:
No one beyond the 5th row hears stereo.

He was wrong but he had a point.
Stereo is great in the studio on recordings. But its tricky to do live and usually has more to do with a good pa and soundguy.
And you really need smart effects that do more than left and right, but also do percentage transitions between the two.



With all that being said.
I used to run stereo. But it really just got to be too much work with not enough payout.

[leftykingv2]

I still run stereo but in a very old school way. In my rehearsal space I have 2 Marshall JVM 410's and one Marshall JCM 900 cab and I use an old Boss chorus pedal and it sounds great for jamming without having to move my rack which is a total pain in the ass in my opinion.

[AdRock]

As a sound guy, using stereo in a live club setting is pretty much pointless. If the audience isn't in exactly the right spot in the room it will sound strange. Then, I end up with people coming up to me all night telling me something isn't right on the guitar, then I get to explain why its that way. Which they have no understanding of and think I'm giving them a line of tech jargen just to get them to go away, and to try to explain away what, in their eyes, is me doing a bad job.

How did I solve this issue. The pa is run mono, end of story. Everybody in the room hears the same thing no matter what speaker stack they're near.


I will say though that whether I'm willing to run the system in stereo is directly relational to how high up on the musical food chain the artist is. With that said, every upper end band I ever worked with never had an issue with a mono system after explaining why I chose to run it that way.

[leftykingv2]

As a sound guy, using stereo in a live club setting is pretty much pointless. If the audience isn't in exactly the right spot in the room it will sound strange. Then, I end up with people coming up to me all night telling me something isn't right on the guitar, then I get to explain why its that way. Which they have no understanding of and think I'm giving them a line of tech jargen just to get them to go away, and to try to explain away what, in their eyes, is me doing a bad job.

How did I solve this issue. The pa is run mono, end of story. Everybody in the room hears the same thing no matter what speaker stack they're near.


I will say though that whether I'm willing to run the system in stereo is directly relational to how high up on the musical food chain the artist is. With that said, every upper end band I ever worked with never had an issue with a mono system after explaining why I chose to run it that way.

LMAO!!!! I love it bro!! I hate explaining the same shit over and over too! "The P.A. is in mono!" That's great!

[pianoguyy]

Hence the '5th row' line.

[straycat]

At gigs I hang with the sound guy while the band I tech for is on stage just to learn more about it and he told me guys running stereo are always motioning him to to make adjustments during the show he just waves like OK I'll adjust that for you but he never does.
He told me at stage volume it really makes no difference.
He did say if the band isn't all that loud or if the venue is small he sees a point for running stereo.
I'm still learning so I know jack about being a sound guy.
One thing I have learned don't piss off the sound guy he owns your show so to speak.

[AdRock]

At gigs I hang with the sound guy while the band I tech for is on stage just to learn more about it and he told me guys running stereo are always motioning him to to make adjustments during the show he just waves like OK I'll adjust that for you but he never does.
He told me at stage volume it really makes no difference.
He did say if the band isn't all that loud or if the venue is small he sees a point for running stereo.
I'm still learning so I know jack about being a sound guy.
One thing I have learned don't piss off the sound guy he owns your show so to speak.

You're buddy is right that at stage volume stereo really makes no difference. And stereo can work in some venues depending on the size and layout of the place. But, in most bar to Med size venue type places mono seems to work best. Also, the foh sound can be murdered or helped by the bands stage volume. You get a.band with crazy stage volume and the chance.of foh sounding good start going down the tubes.

The first thing I would tell anyone looking to get into sound.... never be afraid to suggest something to the artists. For instance, I worked with a blues guy that has been around since the 50's and is a big deal. He was having his amps bleed into his vocal mic and was mucking things up. It was workable on my end but he wasn't thrilled about his monitor mix. I walk up to the stage.to listen to it and he tells me that it happens all the time and.to get it as good as I can. I simply suggested adjusting the amp placement, then switched from the regular am 58 that was his to an ev767 that had better feedback rejection. After the show he told me that he had the most clear monitor mix that hed had in years. I explained why what I changed made a difference. He bought that ev mic from me on the spot and told his road manager that his stage plot needed to be changed for the new amp placement.

Bottom line is that this guy was having these problems because people were afraid to tell him to quit using the regular 58 he had been using for years, and tell him he should move his amp a little.

[slowhand66]

I use a stereo set up for home use and recording. I run a line out into effects, then into a Matrix GT1000 stereo power amp. The main reasons for doing this is so I can bypass the amp effect loop, or the amp may not even have an effects loop. I keep the original dry signal in tact.

Run mono for playing live, go with a simple set up.

[tomanyjacksons]

I run 2 channels of the board. Either 2 mics on one cab or both sides of a Vox Tonelab SE. I'm not going for stereo. But my sound guy always is. Go figure.

[AdRock]

I run 2 channels of the board. Either 2 mics on one cab or both sides of a Vox Tonelab SE. I'm not going for stereo. But my sound guy always is. Go figure.

I run 2 mics once in a while on one guys cab. Not for stereo though. One is an e609 and the other is an sm57. The two blended can give one fat tone with a little eq.