Are people dumping 11 racks or is it just me

[AdRock]

I've been searching for a decent deal on a Digitech GSP1101 and one thing I'm noticing is that there seem to be tons of used Eleven Racks or sale. Some real cheap. Is that unit just a flash in the pan type of thing.

[leftykingv2]

It seems to be everywhere and pretty cheap just like you said. People are complaining about the mid gain and low gain models, Particularly the vintage Marshall's and Fender's. They all have a blanket bass response and people are having a bitch of a time trying to get rid of them. People are also saying the harmonizer blows chunks hard! The delays and reverbs make the heavily distorted patches very muddy sounding as well. They're also complaining that the stomp box emulations are very low budget sounding and not realistic at all. Hope it helps bro.

[AdRock]

Wow, didn't know people were having that many issues with it. I started to look into them but when I found out they didn't have a pitch shift that was it for me. And yeah, fx on the distortion channels sounded really odd but I was listening to clips online so I chalked it up to that.

[leftykingv2]

Yeah my buddy had it for about 6 weeks and sold it. I messed with it for probably 12 hours over the period he owned it but he and I both agreed it had it's good points but there were also inherent flaws that a unit of this price just shouldn't have.

[Hellbat]

It seems to be everywhere and pretty cheap just like you said. People are complaining about the mid gain and low gain models, Particularly the vintage Marshall's and Fender's. They all have a blanket bass response and people are having a bitch of a time trying to get rid of them. People are also saying the harmonizer blows chunks hard! The delays and reverbs make the heavily distorted patches very muddy sounding as well. They're also complaining that the stomp box emulations are very low budget sounding and not realistic at all. Just what I am hearing. Hope it helps bro.

First, there is no harmonizer in the 11R, so if that means it blows chunks, then I guess it does.

I own an 11R and have a new Axe-FX 2. This is why you are seeing them hitting the used markets. The 11R is a great product but it's stuck at 5 years ago. Avid has basically abandoned the product at this point, so people are moving on. If you are looking to get one, make sure you get one with the expansion pack. It addressed many issues with the original release. The delays and reverbs on it are excellent. I actually prefer their reverb to the ones used in the stock presets on the Axe 2.

The JTM-45 model in it is great. Very responsive. I also really like the Modern SOD model for high gain stuff. It's also useful as a recording/reamping interface. And speaking of interface, the front panel interface is excellent for tweaking the settings. It's not as deep as the axe but WAY faster at getting to the settings.

[leftykingv2]

First, there is no harmonizer in the 11R, so if that means it blows chunks, then I guess it does.

I own an 11R and have a new Axe-FX 2. This is why you are seeing them hitting the used markets. The 11R is a great product but it's stuck at 5 years ago. Avid has basically abandoned the product at this point, so people are moving on. If you are looking to get one, make sure you get one with the expansion pack. It addressed many issues with the original release. The delays and reverbs on it are excellent. I actually prefer their reverb to the ones used in the stock presets on the Axe 2.

The JTM-45 model in it is great. Very responsive. I also really like the Modern SOD model for high gain stuff. It's also useful as a recording/reamping interface. And speaking of interface, the front panel interface is excellent for tweaking the settings. It's not as deep as the axe but WAY faster at getting to the settings.

Well my opinion is based on the very limited amount of time I spent playing with it. If you own the model I am sure you know more about it. Perhaps my buddy just had his all out of whack. I hated the presets on it but that could've been due to him altering them.

[leftykingv2]

As for it not having a harmonizer you must have a different model than he's talking about. The digitech GSP 1101 does have a harmonizer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6I28TmmgrU

[VitaminG]

As for it not having a harmonizer you must have a different model than he's talking about. The digitech GSP 1101 does have a harmonizer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6I28TmmgrU

from Avid's specs, there's no harmonizer in the 11R. A lot of chatter around the internet about whether they would ever add one in a future firmware update. But I can't find anything about there actually being one. Given how many people desire it, you figure it would create a fuss if they'd actually added one.

I always put the lower secondhand prices on the 11R down to the fact that the original owners have registered ProTools & aren't transferring the license with the sale. Most units I've seen for sale specify that PT isn't included. So anyone buying an old one is probably going to have buy PT. Plus don't you require some kind of key/lock to authorise it? So that's an additional expense/dissuader

[chrisolson]

I've had an 11r -- twice. It's a good unit for what they go for now, but as others have said, Avid has basically abandoned it. It's also kinda "captive" to Pro Tools for upgrading, which also no longer seems to happen either - it's basically had one upgrade. It's a step above a Pod Pro, but no longer in the same league as the Pod HD series. For a budget player though, it's a GREAT unit. Easy to use, easy to get good usable tones out of.

[leftykingv2]

from Avid's specs, there's no harmonizer in the 11R. A lot of chatter around the internet about whether they would ever add one in a future firmware update. But I can't find anything about there actually being one. Given how many people desire it, you figure it would create a fuss if they'd actually added one.

I always put the lower secondhand prices on the 11R down to the fact that the original owners have registered ProTools & aren't transferring the license with the sale. Most units I've seen for sale specify that PT isn't included. So anyone buying an old one is probably going to have buy PT. Plus don't you require some kind of key/lock to authorise it? So that's an additional expense/dissuader

Then what would you call the effect in the youtube video I posted if it's not a harmonizer?

[toejam]

Then what would you call the effect in the youtube video I posted if it's not a harmonizer?

They're talking about the 11R not having a harmonizer. You're the only one here talking about the GSP1101.

[VitaminG]

Then what would you call the effect in the youtube video I posted if it's not a harmonizer?

ah man, you really got me there. With all this talk about the 11R, I didn't acknowledge that there is a harmonizer in the GSP1101

[leftykingv2]

They're talking about the 11R not having a harmonizer. You're the only one here talking about the GSP1101.

I am well aware of what they're talking about. Adrock the OP of this thread is and was asking for opinions on the GSP 1101. Why people came on this thread and started talking about the 11R I have no idea. It's as if they didn't even read his question before they posted.

[leftykingv2]

ah man, you really got me there. With all this talk about the 11R, I didn't acknowledge that there is a harmonizer in the GSP1101

Hellbat started the talk about the 11R. The 11R was never even the subject of discussion in this thread. :think:

[leftykingv2]

I've been searching for a decent deal on a Digitech GSP1101 and one thing I'm noticing is that there seem to be tons of used Eleven Racks or sale. Some real cheap. Is that unit just a flash in the pan type of thing.

Just in case you guys missed it. This thread is about the GSP 1101. Not the 11R.