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  • #31
    Originally posted by leftykingv2 View Post
    The 1960 A and B come stock with the G12T-75. It's not a bad speaker but I prefer the 25 watt or V30's speakers personally. I have cranked a Marshall TSL through a green back loaded cab and never had a problem. The TSL is 120 watts. I didn't turn it up to ten but I've had it at about six and a half and it sounded fine and the speakers handled it without a problem.
    It's very rare that I would ever dime an amp, but on the off chance I ever were to, I would want the cab to handle it. So I'll probably go with the standard 75's just in case. I can see the tone being better on smaller wattage speakers, though. I believe I can EQ and overcome the scooped issue if I have one.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by PowerTube View Post
      It's very rare that I would ever dime an amp, but on the off chance I ever were to, I would want the cab to handle it. So I'll probably go with the standard 75's just in case. I can see the tone being better on smaller wattage speakers, though. I believe I can EQ and overcome the scooped issue if I have one.
      That will depend on what head unit you choose to run through the 1960 cab. I tend to agree with Big Al about the JVM and the 1960 Marshall cab. The midrange frequency does tend to sound very scooped with that pairing. I have the JVM and I prefer to use the V30's or the green backs with it.
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      • #33
        Don't get me wrong bro. The 1960 with the G12T-75's sounds great with my dual monobloc ,JMP1, my 900's and Plexi. I just personally prefer to use the V30's or green backs with my TSL or JVM.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by leftykingv2 View Post
          Don't get me wrong bro. The 1960 with the G12T-75's sounds great with my dual monobloc ,JMP1, my 900's and Plexi. I just personally prefer to use the V30's or green backs with my TSL or JVM.
          So what cabs come stock with the greenbacks?
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          • #35
            You can get the GB in a 1960AC, BC, AX, BX. There is also the 425A or B.
            I compared a 1960A to a 425B (greenbacks) side by side with a JVM410H. The GT75's in the 1960 had a scooped sound but had good low end. The GB's in the 425 cab sound great, not as much low end as the 1960A but the mids and highs were sweet. With the JVM, they had an 80's type of sound (I mean that in a good way). I ended up with the 1960AV (v30's) and passed on the 425. The 425B was a purple cabinet and did not match my head but I cannot get the GB's out of my head. May have to go back and get that purple 425.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Big Al View Post
              You can get the GB in a 1960AC, BC, AX, BX. There is also the 425A or B.
              I compared a 1960A to a 425B (greenbacks) side by side with a JVM410H. The GT75's in the 1960 had a scooped sound but had good low end. The GB's in the 425 cab sound great, not as much low end as the 1960A but the mids and highs were sweet. With the JVM, they had an 80's type of sound (I mean that in a good way). I ended up with the 1960AV (v30's) and passed on the 425. The 425B was a purple cabinet and did not match my head but I cannot get the GB's out of my head. May have to go back and get that purple 425.
              Thanks for the info. What sucks for me is that I just don't have the opportunity to try cabs back to back like that. My local GC is the ONLY place around here that even carries them, and as I type this, they have exactly ONE Marshall 4x12 in stock.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by PowerTube View Post
                So what cabs come stock with the greenbacks?
                I told you on post #28. So did Al on #35.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by leftykingv2 View Post
                  I told you on post #28. So did Al on #35.
                  Sorry about that. I read what you posted but got sidetracked.
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                  • #39
                    Okay, I don't really care for the "vintage" grille cloth look. Just not my thing. I'm interested in the greenback speakers but I worry about blowing them. So I'll probably go with the standard 1960 and use EQ to set my tone.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by PowerTube View Post
                      Sorry about that. I read what you posted but got sidetracked.
                      No problem bro. I do a lot of that myself.
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                      • #41
                        I can say one thing: after reading this thread, I'm gonna load up some Greenback impulse responses and see how I like them.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by PowerTube View Post
                          Okay, I don't really care for the "vintage" grille cloth look. Just not my thing. I'm interested in the greenback speakers but I worry about blowing them. So I'll probably go with the standard 1960 and use EQ to set my tone.
                          I don't mind the vintage cloth but I don't own any of those cabs either. Like I said my green back loaded cabs are regular 1960B's that I replaced the speakers in. You will probably not have an issue with the G12T-75's. They're great speakers in my opinion. I have 6 cabs all Marshall 1960B's. Two have green backs, two have V30's and two have the stock G12T-75's. They're really flexible and they sound good. I just don't like them with the super high gain head units as much as I like the V30's and the green backs. If you're using a Dual Super Lead it will sound great.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Chad View Post
                            I can say one thing: after reading this thread, I'm gonna load up some Greenback impulse responses and see how I like them.
                            The gradual break up on the green backs is so sweet Chad. It takes way less gain to get that super sweet Jimmy Page style tone.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by leftykingv2 View Post
                              If you're using a Dual Super Lead it will sound great.
                              I'm still considering a DSL instead of a JVM, but I just don't know yet.
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                              • #45
                                A DSL and a Boss SD-1 Will get you where you need to go and be more reliable than the JVM. IMO anyway.
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