The official don't buy this amp if you play at home list...

[jgcable]

Other great Marshall tones come from the Silver Jubilee and the JCM900 SL-X. The SL-X is probably the most underrated Marshall ever produced. Its an outstanding amp and can handle a ton of abuse.

[DonP]

I AM a believer in speaker break in. I didn't like my DSL100 at first because it was very harsh. Now I love it as it warmed up.

[PowerTube]

And that's probably why you aren't a fan of Mesa Boogie. You simply can't set the EQ on a Boogie with your eyes. Its not intuitive.. its not normal. That's what I dislike about it. Marshall.. is so much easier. Just setting everything at 12'oclock is good enough to get a REALLY nice sound.
Like I said.. I originally thought the JVM was overrated but after I heard a few of them.. I was wrong. That's a great sounding Marshall amp. Its like the Mesa Boogie Mark V of Marshalls.

I never like the sound with everything straight up. I generally go something like Bass 1:00 Middle 10:00 Treble 12-1:00.

To me, most Boogies have a scooped sort of sound that doesn't work for me. But in all fairness I haven't plugged into a lot of them.

[PowerTube]

Other great Marshall tones come from the Silver Jubilee and the JCM900 SL-X. The SL-X is probably the most underrated Marshall ever produced. Its an outstanding amp and can handle a ton of abuse.

I had a friend years ago who owned a JCM 800 2210, same model as the one I would own later. He had once owned a Silver Jubilee and he said it was the best sounding one, describing it as "pure cream." I asked him why he sold it and kept the 2210 and he said, "Because the Silver Jubilee was only a single channel." Considering the horrible clean channel on a 2210, I think of it as a single (useable)-channel also.

[Catharpin]

When I want to get a cranked tube amp tone I turn the amp up and step out of the live room into the control room of my studio and have at it.
Fortunately my studio is in a separate building from my home and I can't see/hear any of my neighbors since I own enough acres/woods to keep them at a distance.
Technically speaking I never play "at home", just 100 yards away
One time I cranked up 2 100W amps just outside my studio in my workshop and wailed away. My wife said she could hear it up in the house with all the doors/windows shut, but only if she was listening for it.
With a 100W 4x12 setup in the studio I can hear the bass from just outside my house.
I do find that I can coax a pretty decent tone out of my 5150 combo without going past 2. Probably wouldn't be very good for apartment dwellers or late night bedroom with sleeping people in the house but could certainly be used @ home, but I digress.

[leftykingv2]

I have a lot of the amps he's mentioned like two 800's and a Plexi and to be honest he's right. They're made to be cranked up in my opinion. To me it's a giant waste to even plug any of them in at home especially the Plexi (Insanely fucking loud.)

[PowerTube]

I have a lot of the amps he's mentioned like two 800's and a Plexi and to be honest he's right. They're made to be cranked up in my opinion. To me it's a giant waste to even plug any of them in at home especially the Plexi (Insanely fucking loud.)

You might have missed this earlier in the thread, but.....

I would agree if my sound depended on cranking an amp up to high volume. But it doesn't.

[PowerTube]

Well, I was able to put one thing to rest this evening. As I was waiting at GC to pick up the Marshall 1960A cab I bought online, it just so happens that they had just taken in a JVM205H, the 50-watt JVM head. I'm talking within the last hour! I couldn't believe it. The one I really have in my sights is the JVM410H, but I figured that this one could give me the general idea. So I asked to use it to check out the cab before taking it home. They agreed.

The verdict? I'm TOTALLY getting a JVM410H! Period. Paragraph. End of discussion.

Within about a minute, I dialed in a fantastic tone on this thing. Warm, clear, and totally saturated, and I never turned the volume above a low conversational level. I'm hooked and I can't believe I didn't get one of these instead of the Vetta rig back in 2007.

[ulijdavid]

This thread is like listening to two old ladies talking to each other.......Neither of them disagreeing with each other but neither listening to each other either.

[Chad]

I AM a believer in speaker break in. I didn't like my DSL100 at first because it was very harsh. Now I love it as it warmed up.

Another possibility: your ears warmed up to the sound that the speaker was producing all along.

[PowerTube]

Another possibility: yours ears warmed up to the sound that the speaker was producing all along.

That's the first thing I thought but I was too polite to say it.

Seriously, that gets my vote.

[roodyrocker]

First, I'm glad to hear that the JVM appears that its going to do it for you PowerTube. Now back to our other arguments while some of these high powered tube amps may not be the best option for a novice intending to play them at bedroom levels, its very inaccurate to say you shouldn't use them for anything but full out, cranked volume live gigs. Obviously many of us here have done it including myself. If I listened to what was typed here I would never have owned a SLO, Quick Rod, various Marshalls, etc. Others have done it as well such as Shawn Lutz. Also, the car analogies don't really work here either. A 200 mph Ferrari is still capable of idling around town if that's what you want to do with it. Or at least most are anyway. Ive rode in a very steerable 900 hp Mustang before. And no, it was not like pulling a couple spark plugs out and neutering it into a rough running 6 cylinder. Bottom line is still if it sounds good to you then its good regardless of how expensive or cheap it is or whether you run pedals or go direct into the amp. The right attenuator is ok to use as is a 100w amp if you know what you're doing with it. Just let your ears be the judge

[PowerTube]

First, I'm glad to hear that the JVM appears that its going to do it for you PowerTube. Now back to our other arguments while some of these high powered tube amps may not be the best option for a novice intending to play them at bedroom levels, its very inaccurate to say you shouldn't use them for anything but full out, cranked volume live gigs. Obviously many of us here have done it including myself. If I listened to what was typed here I would never have owned a SLO, Quick Rod, various Marshalls, etc. Others have done it as well such as Shawn Lutz. Also, the car analogies don't really work here either. A 200 mph Ferrari is still capable of idling around town if that's what you want to do with it. Or at least most are anyway. Ive rode in a very steerable 900 hp Mustang before. And no, it was not like pulling a couple spark plugs out and neutering it into a rough running 6 cylinder. Bottom line is still if it sounds good to you then its good regardless of how expensive or cheap it is or whether you run pedals or go direct into the amp. The right attenuator is ok to use as is a 100w amp if you know what you're doing with it. Just let your ears be the judge

Thanks. I must say that I was quite impressed with the JVM205H,and this was at a volume level without a single bleeding ear in sight. Very pleasant and peaceful. From what I understand, this amp is a "compact" version of the JVM410H in the sense that the overdrive is voiced like only one of those on the 410 (OD1 or OD2, I forget). That's why I want the 410; it'll have it all. There's also no abrupt, obnoxious volume spike. It goes smoothly from whisper quiet to more (ahem) "substantial" volumes.

Good points about the car. My truck, a Nissan Titan, came stock from the factory with 317 horsepower, but since I added headers and UpRev tuning, it's in the vicinity of about 380-ish now. I can gently roll down the road with zero problems, but I can also rip the pavement if I feel the need.

That lower-volume tube preamp sound really does it for me.

[P I K A]

I agree with John (JG) .Seems he isn't saying don't buy a tube amp for home but don't buy these particular amps for home. Especially if you are never going to use them like they were meant to be used. Its a wste of money. I gig with an EVH 5153 but at home I have a small blackstar and a bogner pedal. I know a professional guitarist that earns his living solely on touring and he plays Splawns and Marshalls live yet has a flextone at his house. Everybody has different ideas of good tone thats why there are Marshall guys and Mesa guys. I had an engl fireball that sounded good low but not as good as loud. If it were me and I had to have tubes for only playing at home I'd get an el84 amp and push that with an overdrive

[Shawn Lutz]

I have heard several of the JVM Marshall's and I was actually impressed with what I heard, online clips and guys using them live...granted I have not played through them but I could see them being very useable, event at lower volume levels. What I'm not too sure on theses days is build qualities and reliability of the newer Marshalls.