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**Cleveland Metal** · 04-20-2003, 08:14 PM

Re: FURMAN PQ3 EQ QUESTION

It says it is... Mmm, I don't see it really. I guess they have a reason for it... I'm thinking that with bass, you could use it to preamp a power amp.... Using the low in, and high out... Maybe... Maybe not.

I use mine in between my CAE3+se and the Intellifex in the high I/O jacks...

Tried it on the front end to check the preamp part out a bit, and it was way too noisy for me.

Very cool in the loop or between preamp and amp... I'm very happy since I bought my PQ-3. Made my rig sound more like a head somehow.

Also, you may look at the TC 1140... Quieter and even more versatile. My next purchase prolly, even though the PQ3 does great IMO.

**Cleveland Metal** · 04-20-2003, 08:17 PM

Re: FURMAN PQ3 EQ QUESTION

I dont want to change the preamp sound of my head i just want a Eq

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ehh? You just want to manipulate the bass and treble etc? Maybe a graphic would be a thing to try also....

**parntz145** · 04-21-2003, 04:08 AM

Re: FURMAN PQ3 EQ QUESTION

Who makes a good graphic?I like the pq3 but it does seem a little noisey.

**11miles** · 04-22-2003, 09:24 AM

Re: FURMAN PQ3 EQ QUESTION

I have an alesis Meq320 on the test right now and it does the job fantastic.
I wasn't quite sure what the it can do, and he i set it up like i thought it was good and with the in/out button which enables you to listen the signal with or without going thru the eq.
And i was thrilled!

It really expands the sound great!

I was wondering mybe cleveland would know for sure, what is the ''normal'' setting of an let say 30 band eq?
To make myself clear, i know that the sound your ear likes is the baes, and therefore the setting on the eq, but anyway!
My boosts(all the way to 12+dB) are on the 200-250Hz and 2,5kHz.
Any suggestions?

Oh and as far as the graphic eq-s are concerned here in this parts mine(alesis) is considered the best!

Hope i helped

**Cleveland Metal** · 04-22-2003, 09:30 AM

Re: FURMAN PQ3 EQ QUESTION

Hey Paul... Not sure exactly what to recommend. I do have a Alesis MEQ-231 and it's passable I guess. Not sure I'd buy it again though. Maybe the one that 11miles is speaking is better?

I'd look to an older TC Electronics I think, or Rane for a studio quality piece. Of course, some cheap ones have coolness about them. Like the Boss 10 band half space that Kerry King uses... I have an old Rockman EQ that has some coolness about it too. Noisy though.

I think that I'd look to a good parametric and use it in a subtle fashion.

**Cleveland Metal** · 04-22-2003, 09:37 AM

Re: FURMAN PQ3 EQ QUESTION

I was wondering mybe cleveland would know for sure, what is the ''normal'' setting of an let say 30 band eq? To make myself clear, i know that the sound your ear likes is the bass, and therefore the setting on the eq, but anyway!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, a normal setting would be totally flat I think. And then you would manipulate it from there. At lower volumes, you would tend to boost bass and treble to make it sound 'right" to your ears, like the "loudness" button does on a stereo. It seems your ears don't perceive lows and highs as well at low volume as they do at higher volumes. So you generally increase lows and highs to get a sound that is more natural to your ears at the low volumes. As you would increase volume, you would lower those low and high EQ settings to keep that "right" or natural sound.

Really, EQ applied to guitar is just "what YOU like" to get YOUR tone. I don't think there are any rules really. Have at it, and get the sound YOU want. Play with it, and come back later when your ears have rested, and see if you still like it.

Watch out for ear fatigue when dialing in EQs, ESPECIALLY when tweaking a parametric, those things can be a nightmare to dial in it seems. But, they are quite the godsend for certain things. I'd be miserable without mine at this point.

[ April 22, 2003, 09:42 AM: Message edited by: Cleveland Metal ]

**JacksonShredder** · 04-22-2003, 10:26 AM

Re: FURMAN PQ3 EQ QUESTION

go with a Rocktron ProQ

**11miles** · 04-22-2003, 02:31 PM

Re: FURMAN PQ3 EQ QUESTION

Cleveland, you are very right!

Especially about ear fatigue.
When i first got the eq and the compressor i spent half of a day tweaking them.
Only the first half an hour was productive! After an hour the ears goes numb, and you hardly can tell the low-mids and hi-mids apart!

I am not saying that mine alesisi is the best option it is said to be in the top class. I'm sure there are a lot of other products that really do the sound!
The M-eq, sure helps the sound although is noisy, yes!
As far as the Furman is concerned i heard great things about it, not eq wise, though!
And as far as parametric eq is concerned, those things are quite a handful if u ask me, a bit harder to manipulate as the graphics, but once you are thru with the rookie stage you rule!

**Cleveland Metal** · 04-22-2003, 05:21 PM

Re: FURMAN PQ3 EQ QUESTION

go with a Rocktron ProQ

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have one, it works "ok" with some amps. I'd advise a quality parametric over it. The ProQ is much too processed and limited in scope. Only bass, treble, and a mid parametric control, with a weird phase control and a HUSH.

The ProQ has its application, and is working nicely on the Uberschall for now. I really wish it did more parametric functions. Otherwise, I'd never buy another one.

With my rack, the PQ0-3 is heads over the ProQ

**parntz145** · 04-22-2003, 07:31 PM

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Hey 11miles,DO you have a alesis 320 or a 230??I cant find anything made by alesis called a 320 just a 230.How much do they go for?Thanks paul.

**parntz145** · 04-22-2003, 07:32 PM

Re: FURMAN PQ3 EQ QUESTION

Hey 11miles,DO you have a alesis 320 or a 230??I cant find anything made by alesis called a 320 just a 230.How much do they go for?Thanks paul.

**parntz145** · 04-22-2003, 07:34 PM

Re: FURMAN PQ3 EQ QUESTION

I forgot to tell you guys that I am running this in mono.Can you still use the alesis 230 for mono.I guess you would only use 1 side of it.

**rodrigo_echeverri** · 04-22-2003, 07:58 PM

Re: FURMAN PQ3 EQ QUESTION

11miles... you are in Europe, right?... I think Germany?....

It seems you have come a long way into your quest for solving you mid-range problem. Did you try the Maximizer yet?...

I gotta go get one of those Alesis EQs... how much did you pay?

**11miles** · 04-22-2003, 10:11 PM

Re: FURMAN PQ3 EQ QUESTION

That's a typo, paul!
I have (borrowed) an alesis m-eq 230!
Its dual 30 band graphic eq!
Runing it mono is really not a problem. And if you are not egoistic your guitar buddy from a band can use the other side!

A new one is about 200$ here although you must order it from germany, because we really don't have any real distributers here in Slovenia! (Rodrigo, i answered your question about where i come from,)

As far as my mid range problem is concerned, the eq helps a lot. But i'm still in porces of finding a maximizer that yould boost mids and everything i would tell him to boost
:-)
But i fear that i would have to drive up to Italy or austria, even germany to find and try one out!
But then again i would have to drive all my rig with my to really try it out, like i am doing now with the alesis, compressor and eq!

If you could reccomend me one or two i would be greately apreciative.

Bare in mind that the newest in our category is still BBE 386 in this parts.
The new one is currently unavailable!
How much it costs there in the states anyway.
I would even try my luck over at e-bay but you americans only look after each other ynd don't let anyone apart from stateside auction!

So i am left standing while you are getting the real stuff in real deal and cool prices!
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