Best Half Stack (For a metal tone) for the money?

[j2379]

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5150 or randall RG100 especially for the $. the randalls you can get for like $200-300. never heard the rocpro. how are the ampeg lee jacksons, & the yamaha soldano designed amps? i see them around pretty cheap but have never tried one?

[Wizard of Ozz]

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A used PV 5150 is near impossible to beat for the $$$. The Marshall DSL 100/50 is also a good choice as well.

[Deneb]

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Jg, I don't want to hear anything from you, until you retube that Marshall, You won't want anything else! It's awesome! (In ref to a JCM800 2210).

Be forwarned, IT'S LOUD.

There was a crate I liked, but it just had so much distotion and the head was really tiny, really wierd, and I wouldn't gig out with it, it would just make a neat toy.

[jgcable]

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I heard from another person that Yngwie used the Roc Pro at clinics too. Cool.

[Deneb]

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Oh, if my post looked rude, it wasn't, it was just saying in excitement [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Is the Roc Pro stuff the same as those Rockman processor things? I remember my uncle having one of those with the big speaker and little one in a 4x12 size cab, and it sounded okay.

[semagic]

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b-52's LG-100A & lg412v from what i've seen and heard. [img]/images/graemlins/drool2.gif[/img]

[lerxstcat]

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Oh, if my post looked rude, it wasn't, it was just saying in excitement [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]Is the Roc Pro stuff the same as those Rockman processor things? I remember my uncle having one of those with the big speaker and little one in a 4x12 size cab, and it sounded okay.

[/ QUOTE ]No, the Roc Pro was Fender's answer to the Marshall VS100Valvestate head and VS100 combo. 3 channels, 1 12AX7 for tube warmth. I liked the Roc Pro a little better than the VS100 and it was about $100 cheaper at GC. I boughtone but took it back, as the crunch channel was louder than the lead channel, which reduced the point of having 3 channels to me. I already had a 2-channel amp I liked so why have one where the highest drive channel couldn't cut through for solos? I'm sure I could've worked with that had I really wanted to, but why bother since I didn't have to? But you can get 'em used for $200 or so, and they're pretty nice for that money.

[Number Of The Priest]

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Did you try using the lead channel for rhythm and the crunch channel for solos? Sounds counter-intuitive, I know. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Tooling]

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5150/5150II

[lerxstcat]

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The crunch channel didn't have enough gain, the lead channel was too muddy for a good crunch rhythm, and if I'm going to stick my SD-1 in front of it I may as well keep my 2-channel amp I'm already doing that with. I basically just had a GC creditcard burning a hole in my pocket when I took it home, and 24 hours was enough to decide I didn't want to keep it. If I didn't already have 2 identical 100-watt 2-channel tube heads that I liked, I probably would have kept it. For $369 brand new it wasn't bad, but I bought it only for the 3rd channel, and when realized the SD-1 worked better with my 2-channel amps, well why would I keep it when I had a head and a spare already? So for a guy with no amp, for $200 used it'd sound pretty damn good, but I'd get an SD-1 or Tube Screamer to hit the front end
if that's what I was gonna use.

[toejam]

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FENDER ROC PRO

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I am a big fan of the Roc Pro 1000 too but you really need a pedal with it to do metal. It has nice gain and distortion but it just needs a little nudge more for metal IMHO.

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I've got a Roc Pro 1000 head and I agree about it needing an OD pedal for just a little more gain... for the most part. When using a guitar with higher gain pickups like EMGs, I don't seem to need a pedal. I usually play it through either a 1x12 or 4x12 Crate cab. It doesn't beat my Mesa F-30, but it's damn good!

[siggy14]

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b-52's LG-100A & lg412v from what i've seen and heard. [img]/images/graemlins/drool2.gif[/img]

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I played the b-52, alot of distortion, i am pretty sure they have to be doing diode clipping somewhere in the path! It is all tube though and cheap, here in USA it is $699 new for the head, the head sounded alot better through a V30 cab though. If you ask me the B-52 has alot of charistics of a heavey distortion Crate Amp but warmed up by tube! For metal there are so many good choices, i love my mesa Dual Rec but that sound is so over played! My roadking head is awesome but not as heavy, but i love being able to add the EL34's with the 6L6's. I also latley have been playing alot through my ADA MP-1 going into a mesa 20/20. My DSL100 is ok, but i am getting a triple X in soon and if i like it i will be selling the DSL! For Rock i use my marshall 6100 (my favorite Amp) I also own the 5150 but that sounds i starting to get outplayed now too!

[semagic]

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b-52's LG-100A & lg412v from what i've seen and heard. [img]/images/graemlins/drool2.gif[/img]

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I played the b-52, alot of distortion, i am pretty sure they have to be doing diode clipping somewhere in the path! It is all tube though and cheap, here in USA it is $699 new for the head, the head sounded alot better through a V30 cab though. If you ask me the B-52 has alot of charistics of a heavey distortion Crate Amp but warmed up by tube! For metal there are so many good choices, i love my mesa Dual Rec but that sound is so over played! My roadking head is awesome but not as heavy, but i love being able to add the EL34's with the 6L6's. I also latley have been playing alot through my ADA MP-1 going into a mesa 20/20. My DSL100 is ok, but i am getting a triple X in soon and if i like it i will be selling the DSL! For Rock i use my marshall 6100 (my favorite Amp) I also own the 5150 but that sounds i starting to get outplayed now too!

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so... do you like the lg100a [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img] thinking of purchasing one [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[The Chase]

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Engl 50 watt second hand. I used mine live again, like 5 hours ago with volume at 3 o'clock. The sound was a killer! I have a TSL 100 - this thing sucks sooooo much, compared to an Engl! Even my mother could tell the difference!

[V-TYPE]

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I just got a 5150 head and matching 4-12 slant for $575. I gotta tell you this is the best half stack for the money you can get. With a BBE and an eq the 5150sounds great clean but shines with crushing gain. Kills my Laney Gh 100 head easily.