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  • Worst equipment failure ever.

    After having the worst equipment failure experience of my career, I have been contemplating getting some new gear.
    I play bass and guitar, but play bass in Heavy Metal band.
    In the band I use a 500w Ampeg SVT with matching Ampeg SVT 8x10 cabinet. I LOVE this rig. Yes it is beaten up, heavy, cumbersome and the cab has no dolly and weirdly placed handles, but still I love it. It has a great sound with a ton of flexibility, a TON of volume and that classic vintage amp look.

    We set up in the afternoon for a show on new years eve, and done a sound check, everything was fine. We had coffins at either side of the stage that we were all going to come out of during our intro. [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]
    That time came, we hit the stage and the curtian dropped, Pete, our rythm guitar player came out of his smoke filled coffin, playing the start of the intro. Next was me and our lead guitar player coming in with our parts and coming out of the coffins. My time came, I burst out of the coffin!.... To nothing! [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img] I was playing but there was nothing. Complete silence on my behalf. Complete Spinal Tap moment.
    I checked the amp, power on, all setting normal etc, standby off, cables and chords in, volume on bass up... Nothing. I looked at the sound guy with these kind of looks [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
    He had a quick check with no luck, so he brought up a direct box and I plugged straight into the PA. I played the rest of gig through the PA, so every body could hear the bass, except me. The monitors were not powerful enough to give me a good stage volume on the bass. I couldn't hear a thing the whole friggin time.
    To make matters worse on our third last song "Sexy She Bitch", all the chicks in the crowd joined us on stage. This is a good thing yeah, but there was so many chicks on stage dancing and spraying beer and champagne, somebody done something to my direct box and once again, no sound from the bass! I'm sure it got wet or something becuase for the rest of the show, there was no signal. Nothing.
    This was a great fun show, but a complete **** nightmare at the same time. Nobody in the crowd noticed or cared but I, and the rest of the band did. I was really bummed out by the end of the show.
    After partying, and suffering for a few days, i got my stuff together and checked it all out at home. Everything worked fine. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
    It's not the first time I've had an amp problem that has fixed itself but I certainly want it to be the last.
    So......
    Im looking into maybe purchasing some new gear, that I wont have to worry about not working.
    If I had the money I would buy a new Ampeg SVT Classic and new 8x10 but this is out of my budget. Wait, there is no budget. Im broke right now.
    I've been looking into the Carvin RL1000 with the Redline Series 4x10 and 1x18 after reading Horns666 raving about them.
    This directed towards Horns, and anybody that has had any experience with these amps and cabs. I've read they sound great, and you can get a lot of sounds out of them, but then I have read a lot of reviews saying that they are very unreliable. This is not what I am looking for!
    This is one of the cheaper bass full stacks and usually go by the saying "you get what you pay for".
    Can anybody shed some light on the build quality and reliability of these Carvin amps?
    I gig a lot and move my equipment around a lot so I need something solid that isn't giong to start rattling inside after a few gigs.
    Any input would be appreciated.
    Thanks

  • #2
    Re: Worst equipment failure ever.

    I'm having a Spinal Tap flashback here. Are you sure those were coffins & not giant pods?
    Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam!

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    • #3
      Re: Worst equipment failure ever.

      That's the best and worst story I ever heard. Look at it from the awsome end. Loads of chicks sprayin you down with liquor and no one had a bad time. Reminds me of a gig my brother had. His guitarist (with a wireless) jumped into the crowd and started moshing. He was so in to it that when he got on the stage he started moshing with my brother (bassist), he got knocked into his amp and over the back of the stage! Band kept playin, everyone said "Holy $hit!", he got up and of course his rig was fuked, so he jumped back into the pit and everyone got nuts. Good times! Point is, shit happens, but something will happen to even it out (ying/yang baby!).

      As for the gear, my friend just bought a Carvin combo for his bass (I'll find out which one, dunno right now) and it sounds freakin awsome. Very thick and smooth. Loud as hell too. If the combo's are that great sounding, I can't imagine the head and cabs being that far off.

      - Irfaan -

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      • #4
        Re: Worst equipment failure ever.

        Carvin makes good bass rigs. Go for it. I had one for many years and it as solid. Did many a gig with that rig and it stood tall with the best of them... I still have a Carvin Bass pre-amp from the late 80's and it never fails...

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        • #5
          Re: Worst equipment failure ever.

          [ QUOTE ]
          We had coffins at either side of the stage that we were all going to come out of during our intro. [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]
          That time came, we hit the stage and the curtian dropped, Pete, our rythm guitar player came out of his smoke filled coffin, playing the start of the intro. Next was me and our lead guitar player coming in with our parts and coming out of the coffins. My time came, I burst out of the coffin!....

          [/ QUOTE ]

          Cool...just like the old Misfits Halloween shows! I've heard the new 'fits do the same thing, but I'd rather not acknowledge their existence...just a sad old man with a reverse mullet looking for a meal ticket... [img]/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]

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          • #6
            Re: Worst equipment failure ever.

            I was reading this and chuckling to myself envisioning a total Spinal Tap moment before you made mention of the Tap.
            Dude, sounds simple.. but did you check the cord between the amp and the cab? and replace it?
            I've had this very same thing happen with a shorted cable. If the rig worked before and again after.. chances are that may be all that it is.

            I also used to run sound for many years. A buddy of mine is also a bassist/pro sound man, he always ran a mix signal of DI and mic'd. If you have the spare channel on the board, it is not a bad idea, I feel you get a good blend and more control over the bass sound, especially when compressing the DI. He uses a Sans amp bass driver.

            Carvin is great stuff for the money. Hartke ain't shoddy either. Older Trace Elliott stuff can be had for decent money and is a good buy also. A 4x10 and 1x18 or 1x15 or 2x15 will definitely deliver.

            There's alot of cheap solid state power amps out there..even tubed ones if you want to use a preamp.


            It sucks when you cannot hear your rig or your playing onstage.. I really hope your following shows go better for ya. Good luck.

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            • #7
              Re: Worst equipment failure ever.

              [ QUOTE ]
              We had coffins at either side of the stage that we were all going to come out of during our intro. [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]
              That time came, Pete, our rythm guitar player came out of his smoke filled coffin, playing the start of the intro. Next was me and our lead guitar player coming in with our parts and coming out of the coffins. My time came, I burst out of the coffin!.... To nothing! [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img] I was playing but there was nothing. Complete silence on my behalf. Complete Spinal Tap moment.

              [/ QUOTE ]

              [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
              "Quiet, numbskulls, I'm broadcasting!" -Moe Howard, "Micro-Phonies" (1945)

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              • #8
                Re: Worst equipment failure ever.

                Did you ever figure out what the problem was? (the first silence)

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                • #9
                  Re: Worst equipment failure ever.

                  No idea man. Iwas just getting nothing from the cab. The bass was fine 'cos it worked when I went straight into the PA. It must have been an Amp / Amp - Cab connection problem but I tried and checked everything at the time. I know my equipment well and am positive it was not a stupidity / too many beers problem. I have gigged with this stuff a lot and can do it with my eyes closed.
                  Weird.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Worst equipment failure ever.

                    ..and no I never changed the Amp - Speaker cable, I never had a spare.
                    I have being doing mucho research reading and am more and more being drawn away from Carvin for being badly built thus quite unreliable. I dunno.
                    Looking into the Gallien-Krueger Artists series 1001RB-II head with 2 Gallien-Krueger 410SBX Cabs. Musicians friend advertises this for $1549.99

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                    • #11
                      Re: Worst equipment failure ever.

                      If it only happened once and you can't duplicate it, I'd just buy new cables and keep the rig. I had a guitar rig go out on me in front of 40,000 people. Not a fun experience, but those things happen. Just don't let them get to you.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Worst equipment failure ever.

                        Where did you read that Carvin was unreliable?
                        I have never heard that and have been playing Carvin guitar amps since 1981 with only one problem, which happened because I dropped the amp and broke some power tubes. ust curious where your info is coming from.
                        Ron is the MAN!!!!

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                        • #13
                          Re: Worst equipment failure ever.

                          Read a ton of reviews on Harmony Central, Talk Bass and a few other forums / articles that came up on a google search.
                          I would love to be assured that this is good and reliable, but it does look kindah chessy compared to the Marshalls / Ampegs that I own, use and am used to. I also own a Sovtek Mig 100B Bassov Blues Boy which is a great sounding bass head but just doesnt have the power I need. I ocassionally practice through Marshall Super lead / Super bass but but they too just dont have the power.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Worst equipment failure ever.

                            Great story! Reminds me of the time one of our guitar players, who was standing on our drum riser, wanted to switch guitars with style. He flipped his guitar in a circle, a la Cinderella, to toss it to a roadie waiting offstage, but didn't realize he was standing on its cord. The guitar stopped in mid-flight, dropped to the stage, and broke into 2 large pieces (it was a beautiful Hamer KK Downing model Flying V, and the lower "V" part broke off). Ah, memories. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

                            Getting back to your amp search, Carvin has a great reputation for making high quality gear. I've played in bands where Carvin gear was used, and never witnessed any problems. I also visited their factory in CA and was impressed. In fact, this thread represents the first time I've heard of criticism of Carvin for reliability. I wouldn't worry about them one bit. HC reviewers, on the other hand. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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                            • #15
                              Re: Worst equipment failure ever.

                              How about just replacing the head? The 8x10 ampeg cab I had was killer and I have never been able to replicate that sound with any multi speaker combo. I did the biamp thing and found (for metal) that I like the sound of running tens full range instead.
                              "told you guys that spandex, hairspray and makeup on guys was a bad idea, and now look what happened - you all turned into women." - Newc

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