Well this thought started from the classifieds, so I will address it here. I had/have a 2.0 (brother in law bought it and defaulted, just got it back tonight) but never messed with it to much. Right after I sold I bought a xt live and really worked with it. My question is I have heard, and other places then here, that alot of people prefer the 2.0 to the xt. Tomorrow I'm gonna a/b them both but I would like other opinions as well. Thanks in advance.
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I was the one looking for one in the classifieds. I initially owned an XT, and at the time didnt like it. Then later (and now) own a 2.0, and right away thought it sounded alot more realistic. I guess my thought process on looking for another XT, is simply an exercise in hearing it again, and seeing if my ear has changed regarding it's tone.
I honestly think I am gonna just stick with the 2.0. I have a few nice amps (Bogner, Prosonic, etc...) but I always seem to play the longest and stay the most interested in that 2.0.
Shawn
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Are you playing the 2.0 through a amp? See I feel lucky as I have never had or played through tubes [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]. I've had a couple of solid state's that were alright, but when I got altec speakers for the pc and the guitar port that was all she wrote. So all my experience as for as pod stuff goes is through the computer. I guess I'm just curious.
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My Pod sounds great through my computer(M-audio 2946)and out to Powered Monitors, Through a clean amp (1968 bandmaster), or through the Bogner loop. Not to mention headphones. The best of both worlds would be the 2.0, but with more effects available to screw around with IMHO.
Shawn
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then add another stand alone digital FX unit unit to complinent the audio chain if so desired.I have used my Podpro through a marshall 80-80 valvestate poweramp and closed back marshall speakers and it sounded great with minor EQ trims and boosts.The Xt Paige has to be programed to dial up fantastic tones-has more digital FX but looses a lil in the tone-its a trade off that some dont mind and others like myself cant work with.A friend has had one for some time now(bedroom guitarist)and was happy with it till i gave him a modded Boss OD-1 pedal-soon as he played that he looked at me and said Thats fn amazing!He now uses the pedal to drive the XT with mildly dirty tone, slight delay and a touch of reverb-and it doesnt sound bad at all.
A/B them both like you said and see what works best for your ears
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I just got done comparing the two and came up with the 2.0 is alot fuller sounding. Pinch harmonics are easier, alot less fizz, and basically stronger. I'm still up in the air about which to keep though because the pod live is easier and alot more convient. Maybe I should sell the xt and get a long board for the 2.0. With the long board do have pretty much the same ease of use as the live?
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Man, I guess I'm the crazy one here. I had a Pod 2.1 (upgraded to 2.3 later on) and bought an XT when they FIRST came out from riksmusic. Got a great deal on it ($349 shipped, when they were selling for $399 at musicians friend and weren't in stock) so I was ready to sell it if it didn't measure up to the older Pod.
I preferred the XT over the old one by quite a bit. Higher fidelity, cleaner sounding effects, etc. It DID take me a few days of tweaking to figure out some things - the 2.x pod was about 50x easier to just 'dial in' quickly. There are very few bad settings on the old Pod. The XT is better imho, but if you don't put the time into it you're screwed.
I ended up ditching the XT when I bought my Vetta, and then came back to the Pod XT when I needed a cheap emergency backup for the Vetta at gigs. They improved the Direct Outs with the last update (currently better IMHO than my Vetta) and added the ability via model packs to put some seriously cool amp or effects models into the Pod, namely the Bogners and others.
I don't think the orignal pod is bad - it sounds great! I just prefer the XT. Once things calm down here again, I'll post some of my XT patches and you guys can check em out if you want. I have one that is based on a Budda and tubescreamer that KILLS for low-medium gain and cleans up amazingly well. I could play a blues gig with that one patch alone.
Pete
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Don't get me wrong, the tones you post up here I would kill for. Your right as in it is probably in the tweaking of the units thats why I would love to try some of your patches. The main thing I noticed was the xt was a lot noiser, (that could have something to with the usb though) and I can't seem to get it as fat sounding. I don't want to use the term realistic because like I said I've never played through tubes. I'm not slamming the xt at all, I love it.
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I bought a Pod 2.3 at GC for $110. Figured it couldn't hurt. I always wondered if I should have got an XT, but it sounds like I did good. I got the 4 button foot pedal for $25. The one thing I miss is a USB port.
I haven't played with it much, but since my homebrew tube amp is flaking on me, it might be a good time to start playing with it.
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Pete, if they are anything like your Vetta patches, I may just have to pick up an XT for the hell of it. Just what I need, a 4th modeler..LOL
Pete's Vetta patches rule..They turned that amp around for me, and I consider myself an educated tweaker.
Shawn
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Pete,you may be right about the cheap Kidney shaped units as i havnt played an original Pod with the old software-I bought the PODPro when it was 1st imported into the uk and cant realy fault the old model-I have a friend who has the same model given to him by Greg Howe who used it with Timberlake as there so fu(king good for useable sounds with no fuss what so ever.Now i have tried both the Kidney shaped Xt's and the Xt pro and i have to be honest in saying the overdriven tone isnt as good-sure i can mess around and front end it with TS9's if i wanted to-i will say there clean sounds are SUPERB!A lot better than the old pods-I am not being snobby here mate-i couldnt give a monkeys about the emulation/amp debate other people rave on about.If its good its good-big deal
I am using a Digitech 2120(worst one in the line up..lol)because its purple...and the overdrive is a bit better with smoother harmonics that my podpro-I tend not to use a lot of FX other than Verb and echo-but i still dig that Phatt american chorused overdrive
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I had a pod pro for quite awhile. Loved it. Great tone, nice warm full sound. I could'nt justify (to my wife anyway) keeping it just for a practice/headphone since I have a Flextone III so I sold it and got a V-Amp2 for practicing.
The V-Amp2 is not as warm, and it does'nt have the same "magic" the pod had. The V-Amp2 beats the pod at clean sounds though. I had a tough time getting a clean sound I liked out of the pod. That said the V-Amp2 still sounds pretty damn good.
So what I don't understand is this:
If the Pod XT is designed after the Vetta, why do so many people love the Vetta and not care too much for the XT. Almost everyone I know in my area (even the guys at the store I frequent) don't really care for the XT that much.
I have not played through one myself yet, but I have bean seriously considering getting an XT.
So does the XT really sound like the Vetta?
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The Vetta is two amps and once, and has many more effects and you can also change the order of effects. It's MUCH more deep than the XT. Having said that, I really like the XT more than the older Pod. For direct recording, I prefer the XT over the Vetta. But my Vetta KILLS cranked through an amp... I played two gigs this weekend and had one of the best tones in my life, it sounded awesome.
Pete
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