Original JCM 800's Vs. The Reissues.

[nonamemx]

Simply put, have any of you found a difference in sound between the new JCM 800 reissues and the original Marshall JCM 800's?

To my ears, the new ones are not as warm, but I start to wonder if im just imagining that of if there is any truth to that.

What do you think?

[toddstaples]

Re: Original JCM 800\'s Vs. The Reissues.

My thoughts excatly, althought it could be tubes too.......

[Twisteramps]

Re: Original JCM 800\'s Vs. The Reissues.

I'd want to hear both amps with the same tubes biased the same and both with fresh filter caps. Do the reissue JCM800s use the same transformers as the old ones?

Pete

[thenine]

Re: Original JCM 800\'s Vs. The Reissues.

I believe not. The old ones have the famous "Drake" xfmr's. The warmth is also different depending on which 800 you have. To my experience they vary quite a bit even among the old ones. If you get a good one, hold onto it!


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[parntz145]

Re: Original JCM 800\'s Vs. The Reissues.

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I believe not. The old ones have the famous "Drake" xfmr's. The warmth is also different depending on which 800 you have. To my experience they vary quite a bit even among the old ones. If you get a good one, hold onto it!


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[/ QUOTE ] I agree 100%. The Drake transformers make a big difference. I have been through a bunch of the jcm 800 and they were all different. If you find one you like hold onto it.

[Shawn Lutz]

Re: Original JCM 800\'s Vs. The Reissues.

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I believe not. The old ones have the famous "Drake" xfmr's. The warmth is also different depending on which 800 you have. To my experience they vary quite a bit even among the old ones. If you get a good one, hold onto it!


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[/ QUOTE ] I agree 100%. The Drake transformers make a big difference. I have been through a bunch of the jcm 800 and they were all different. If you find one you like hold onto it.

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+1

I have had several 2203/04 and they are not all created equal, even with the same year and same tubes. I kept only one 2203 of the bunch that stood out.

I'd like to A/B an RI next to my 83 2203 to see. For the price of the reissues,I put my money on the original vertical input 2203 vs the 2203x.

[thenine]

Re: Original JCM 800\'s Vs. The Reissues.

The price of the reissues just shot way up too. I was thinking of grabbing one - yeah like I need another amp, then the price jump. I found this:
http://www.users.qwest.net/~wj15/current/tmp/bd_1_b.JPG
and pulled the trigger. Ive never owned a 4 holer before. My wife is scared, I told her it was gonna be loud!


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[Shawn Lutz]

Re: Original JCM 800\'s Vs. The Reissues.

I saw that one...those are pretty odd for a JCM800. Tell the wife to run, those loud SOB's will kill a cat a mile away [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[parntz145]

Re: Original JCM 800\'s Vs. The Reissues.

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The price of the reissues just shot way up too. I was thinking of grabbing one - yeah like I need another amp, then the price jump. I found this:
http://www.users.qwest.net/~wj15/current/tmp/bd_1_b.JPG
and pulled the trigger. Ive never owned a 4 holer before. My wife is scared, I told her it was gonna be loud!


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[/ QUOTE ] I wish my wife was a 4 holer [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[charvelguy]

Re: Original JCM 800\'s Vs. The Reissues.

Not just any Drake as the Drake transformers changed in tonality from the JMP replacements to the JCM. They have had similar specs, but even the old JCM's transformers would change the character of an JMP if replaced... usually sounding harsher. (not mentioning that new transformers may sound 'unseasoned' in relation to an older one that had been in use for awhile) My point being that Marshall used alot of differing part number Drake transformers over the years.
The new ones, I have no clue..I haven't even tried one. They're probably made in China along with the celestions that go into the cabs.

[cobhc]

Re: Original JCM 800\'s Vs. The Reissues.

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The price of the reissues just shot way up too. I was thinking of grabbing one - yeah like I need another amp, then the price jump. I found this:
http://www.users.qwest.net/~wj15/current/tmp/bd_1_b.JPG
and pulled the trigger. Ive never owned a 4 holer before. My wife is scared, I told her it was gonna be loud!


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[/ QUOTE ] I wish my wife was a 4 holer [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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lol! [img]/images/graemlins/popcorn.gif[/img]

[Twisteramps]

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[/ QUOTE ] I wish my wife was a 4 holer [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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What's the 4th hole? *shudder*

Pete

[thenine]

Re: Original JCM 800\'s Vs. The Reissues.

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What's the 4th hole? *shudder*

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That's why it's just a wish. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Came today! Whoa Nelly. JCM800 model 1959. With my Jap DS-1 and a sprinkle of chorus it sounds like the roof is caving in. Clear, clean, deep and powerful. Brand new, stored in a garage since 1992. Awesome, not a mark on it.


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[siggy14]

Re: Original JCM 800\'s Vs. The Reissues.

I have heard the newer ones sound better once you replace the tubes. I have heard they sound thicker with the newer type caps. I think i read that on the marshall forum, this link here, but of course that is one persons opinion. http://www.marshallampforum.com/foru...cm800+reissues