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[FSU_Seminoles]

any playing experience with their heads like the Vetta II and HD something ?

[horns666]

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Talk to Pete...

I tried a HD head and was pretty impressed with it..

I bought a 30 wt spyder II for the boy and that even kicks ass ...especially for the bucks..

[FSU_Seminoles]

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not much love other than that ?

[jgcable]

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Search in the history. We have had tons of Vetta 2 and HD147 discussions. There are alot of Vetta 2 players here.
Both are great amps that are used by tons of players.

[442w30]

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I have a Flextone II HD and it is pretty cool. I haven't had a chance to really do much with it, but through a 4X12 it sounds pretty good. I haven't had a chance to tweak it with a computer and I don't have a floorboard. Two things that I think are a must with this.

Most of the sounds on mine are 'close' to what I want, but something is not quite right in my mind. I want to tweak, but don't have the space to move a computer near it for enough time to make it worthwhile.

If you are not taking the time to dial in a bunch of stuff you are probably better off with a tube amp with one great sound. Also, the Flextone II HD is probably powerful enough for most folks.

[Twisteramps]

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I've gigged for nearly two years with a Vetta upgraded to II software - worked great. I did start getting bored with it, and bought two tube amps to mess with a bit... a mesa dual recto rackmount and a peavey JSX (still waiting on it to come in). Should be interesting. I'm finding that it's easier to play a 'tube' amp because they have a better feel, but the Vetta is a great amp. I could play either a tube amp or the vetta at a gig without any worries.

Pete

[TommyD]

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> I bought a Spider 112 at a a pawn shop cheap. I let the amp speak for itself when a friend needed something to play out with while his GK was being worked on. He asked to buy it,and I refused. He offered me retail on a newer version for this one,simply because there wasn't another one for 100 miles for sale,and I could wait for it. I accepted,and got a Spider 2 112,which is even better with the tuner built in. I have yet to have it up past loud bedroom volume,but damned if it doesn't sound better than practially anything that doesn't have tubes for that application. If these aren't the best non-tube amps out there,what is? Tommy D.

[jgcable]

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I've gigged for nearly two years with a Vetta upgraded to II software - worked great. I did start getting bored with it, and bought two tube amps to mess with a bit... a mesa dual recto rackmount and a peavey JSX (still waiting on it to come in). Should be interesting. I'm finding that it's easier to play a 'tube' amp because they have a better feel, but the Vetta is a great amp. I could play either a tube amp or the vetta at a gig without any worries.

Pete

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Hey Pete, I just did a gig Saturday with Aftermath and I used my Boss GT-6, Carvin Tube 100 power amp and 2 Randall 2 x 12 cabinets... one stage left and one stage right.
My sound was great. Everybody at the gig (it was a packed house) thought the band was better with me in it. The reason I am posting this is your mention of a tube amp having a better feel and being easier to play. For the first time in a few years of playing modeling based rigs live I have to agree with you. I felt that although my sound was technically good and the crowd loved it and it was convenient to have all my sounds just 1 click away.. I really wasn't feeling it. The one exception was when I was asked to play a 2 minute guitar solo in the second set alone. When the band wasn't playing it seemed that it got easier for me to play and the feel came back. I am thinking it was the PA bins and cross stage monitors were washing out my "feel". Also, the other guitarist plays a 5150 half stack and he was really turned up loud. He was also mic'd. I wasn't because they felt if I ran in stereo on both sides of the stage it would be fine. I think that was a mistake. Anyway, the next morning I dug out the Mark III and played it on and off for the entire day on Sunday to see if I was really missing something. I had to get used to playing through a tube amp again. At first I sounded a little choppy and rough. By the middle of the day I was really digging it. The Mark III "felt" better. Have you ever experienced this?

[Twisteramps]

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Yep. Tube amps will show off small nuances of your playing more than the modelling amps will. I've never disputed this... but recorded or live, most people aren't going to be able to tell the difference.

I may be selling the tube amps off again, depending on how the next few gigs/rehearsals go. I'm having to put a processor in the fx loop for my delay/chorus/flange stuff, buy a wah pedal to put in the front end, and also a boost pedal or two. When I gig with the vetta, I hook up the vetta to a 4x12 cab, hook up a midi footswitch and I'm done. Oh yeah, and I mic the cab, but still... it's a lot simpler and quicker. I think I've figured out a way to use the pod XT live for my fx loop time-based effects and as a volume boost, but the wah is unusable and I can't use it for a gain boost like a TS9 or a super overdrive. Plus I'm going to have to tapdance a little bit - Change channel AND fx patches with two different footswitches. I could avoid this by buying a rackmount processor, but I'm trying to keep my costs down since I'm not entirely sure I want to go back to 'tube amp ville'.

Pete

[jgcable]

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I am going to flip flop between both rigs. I really can't see myself going back to the hassle of tube amps, effects processors and stomp boxes either (although I still have them all). Sometimes I wish I were in a band that only needed 2 guitar sounds. Clean and distorted. I have to go from Grand Funk to Blue Oyster Cult to Dokken/Ratt and Metallica. Now we just added that Saigon Kick ballad "Love is on the Way" that needs a nylon string guitar sound. There is no way I could get all those sounds with a tube amp unless my rig was SUPER complicated with an amp switching system.
If you are looking for a good wah you should consider the Bad Horsie 2 Contour Wah. Its cheap, its true bypass, it sounds great and its switchless.It turns on and off as soon as you step or release the pedal which is a great feature. I don't use mine because the wah on my GT-6 is incredible and has multiple settings for Morley, Vox, Dunlop along with custom settings.

[hammer84]

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Yep. Tube amps will show off small nuances of your playing more than the modelling amps will. I've never disputed this... but recorded or live, most people aren't going to be able to tell the difference.

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I too play a Veta 2, but I have no touch or feel when in my playing so none of the lost nuances affect me [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

In my old age I really dig the guitar/cord/amp set up. I like being able to dial up different sounds when the bug hits me.

[~K~]

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Vetta is a cool amp, it has its place and will never replace tubes ...

The workbench interface for the variax/vetta was just released and I have to say it's pretty cool. You can set your guitar up all different ways ie pu combos,vol and tone as well as resisters etc. The cool thing is there is a software capo and you can tune your guitar and save any tuning you want.. .So without changing your tuning you can go from standard to flat to drop d with the flip of a switch

[atilla]

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The cool thing is there is a software capo and you can tune your guitar and save any tuning you want.. .So without changing your tuning you can go from standard to flat to drop d with the flip of a switch

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Those are some handy features. I figured it would trickle beyond their Variax stuff.

[chrisolson]

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I've had most Line 6 amps with the exception of the Vetta. If you don't mind NOT playing with tubes, they're great - probably some of the best out there. If you're a tube guy, then stay with tubes. I love Line 6 stuff - I have since the first time I played them. Tubes are great too, but as I don't play out and I don't play LOUD, the L6 stuff works better for me. I've had 2 HD's, and both were terrific. No problems...EVER.

[IommiChild]

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I played my Flextone III thru my friends Marshall cab, in stereo...Sounded flipping sweet. I had to tweak some patches, but it sounded great. Kept up with his Mesa Stiletto.