JSX gig review

[siggy14]

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Hell Pete, ..I would love to.

It's been in my noggin' ever since you mentioned it!

would be great to have one in my hands and in my face..to check out..

especially if it's anything like an SLO on steroids..with a big tight phat ass bottom.. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I think that would suite me better than a powerbal..or fireball maybe...i've only heard clips..

ahhh..clips are cool to see if the tone your looking for is "achievable" , but you really need to have that amp in hands and in your face to really know what it's about..your hands if half your tone ..imo

Sometimes I just can't play a certain amp at all ..even well built ones like My old bud Mike Z of Dr Z..I need a stomp in front of ANY of his amps..and I played em all..I need a stomp..they just don't shred..they sound all pure and pretty ..but they don't shred...not for me.

The gain structure on a DSL and how it feels is absolutely wrong for me..we just did NOT get along..and some other guys can shred on em..but to me they're just unuseable..

I'd take a HD147 over a recto , dsl , tsl , BV , and ect..if I can take care of biz BETTER w / a cool SS amp..then so be it..whatever works best.

You think I'd like a HD147 over a Vetta Pete..?

Like to find a nice used one..cheap. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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The Recto's eat the HD147 for breakfast then throw it up and re-eat it. I know bill, you didnt like the recto, i guess it was to much for you! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Trust me when i say i will take my roadking over most any amp today, and i think i have owned or played them all except the engl's, but i have heard them and they are too solid state sounding for me. My next amp i am gonna try is the orange rocketverb 100.

[Twisteramps]

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The HD147 is pretty brutal - it's basically a vetta that is stripped down. If you don't need over 100s of effects and two amps at once... the HD147 is a pretty smokin' deal.

Pete

[nonamemx]

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I used to run my JSX on an old JCM 800 series 1960B, it sounded thin to my ears.

But I replaced it with a Peavey XXX cabinet, and I must say, the sound is smoother, less buzzy and fizzy, thicker, and the bottom end isn't so boomy and loose, its tighter and controllable.

You can play "Scarified" and actually hear the notes!

[siggy14]

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I used to run my JSX on an old JCM 800 series 1960B, it sounded thin to my ears.

But I replaced it with a Peavey XXX cabinet, and I must say, the sound is smoother, less buzzy and fizzy, thicker, and the bottom end isn't so boomy and loose, its tighter and controllable.

You can play "Scarified" and actually hear the notes!

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That is because more then likley that cabinet has either classic leads or celestion 75's which are a naturall mid scooped speakers and this would take the mid chunck out. These are one of my least favorite speakers but some people love them (horns) If you are looking for super highs and some lows with no mid's then these are the perfect speakers. Vintage 30's add alot of midrange and that is why mesa teams them up with there mid scooped rect heads, if you want alot of mids with rounded highs and lows go for the greenbacks which are a great rock speaker.

[Twisteramps]

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I love 75 watt celestions. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Pete

[charvelguy]

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75's do have a top end edge to them, they have decent low end too. Seem to have more clarity over the V30's.

[LRGman]

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Yea the JSX would make a good cover band amp. Its seems like a pretty tame amp that is good for not offending the dinner set crowd. I liked the JSX when I first heard it but after a while I got burnt of the sound. I can't quite put my finger on what it is, it seems kinda compressed sounding or thin after playing with it more.

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Don't get me wrong, it's a great sounding amp, just not as aggressive as a 5150 or VHT. It will handle megadeth or old metallica covers with no problem whatsoever.

It did sound a bit thin at first, but then again I know how to dial in an amp. A 5 minute guitar center review on ANY amplifier isn't really fair to the equipment IMHO... I generally pay more attention to gear reviews where people either own or have actually used the amps in a gigging or rehearsal situation vs a GC plug in.

Pete

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Don't get me wrong I think your evaluation is pretty accurate. Ans FYI it wasn't a GC plug my bro has one, has actually had two. The first one was a basket case and was taken back a month later after spending most of the month in the shop. The next one came directly from Peavey after many conversations with them and purchasing another directly from them. Supposedly the issue was with EH tubes they were recieving, whatever. Anyway I have spent many hours with the amp mic'ed up. I have used it with recto 4-12 , marshall 4 x12, and a Peavey with 80 watt celestions.

Anyway I think your post is kind of arrogant. Basically stating why your opinion is superior cause blah,blah. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] A GC plug in? Whatever? You must be the only guy that can afford a $900 amp. [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img] Also I haven't played any metallica or megadeth covers for probably 10 years [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[jgcable]

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Yea the JSX would make a good cover band amp. Its seems like a pretty tame amp that is good for not offending the dinner set crowd. I liked the JSX when I first heard it but after a while I got burnt of the sound. I can't quite put my finger on what it is, it seems kinda compressed sounding or thin after playing with it more.

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Don't get me wrong, it's a great sounding amp, just not as aggressive as a 5150 or VHT. It will handle megadeth or old metallica covers with no problem whatsoever.

It did sound a bit thin at first, but then again I know how to dial in an amp. A 5 minute guitar center review on ANY amplifier isn't really fair to the equipment IMHO... I generally pay more attention to gear reviews where people either own or have actually used the amps in a gigging or rehearsal situation vs a GC plug in.

Pete

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Don't get me wrong I think your evaluation is pretty accurate. Ans FYI it wasn't a GC plug my bro has one, has actually had two. The first one was a basket case and was taken back a month later after spending most of the month in the shop. The next one came directly from Peavey after many conversations with them and purchasing another directly from them. Supposedly the issue was with EH tubes they were recieving, whatever. Anyway I have spent many hours with the amp mic'ed up. I have used it with recto 4-12 , marshall 4 x12, and a Peavey with 80 watt celestions.

Anyway I think your post is kind of arrogant. Basically stating why your opinion is superior cause blah,blah. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] A GC plug in? Whatever? You must be the only guy that can afford a $900 amp. [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img] Also I haven't played any metallica or megadeth covers for probably 10 years [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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I think the combination of HC reviews and GC plug ins are a poor tool to base a live gigging amp with. I know it is inconvenient but you really need to play with a band to see if the amp will work live. At home.. its a different story.
Most of you guys flame Ed Roman but back in the days of East Coast Music Mall (which he owned), he had a full stage set up in the store completely set wired and ready to go. If you wanted to tray a high end amp with your band you could call ahead of time, come in and try it out. This did not apply to the $300.00 amps.

[siggy14]

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I agree, to get a amps true side you really need to play it in a live situation. I also sort through HC reviews, you can basically tell whichs ones are accurate and which are biased people or young punk kids or dealers trying to sell there products. I also do a bigger search for reviews then just HC, remember another good way is to see who is playing a particular amp and that will give you an idea of sound and quality. Mesa's do not get played by alot of people because they look pretty, they get played because they sound great and are reliable as all hell, kinda like the old marshalls. I have seen anyone from James Brown guitarist to fleetwood mac to rock to metal use dual rec's, and in every case the mesa sounded great and that is why i love my mesa, i can get almost any tone out of it. Now if Marshall would just catch on and start building quality amps again we would be set.

[Twisteramps]

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Yea the JSX would make a good cover band amp. Its seems like a pretty tame amp that is good for not offending the dinner set crowd. I liked the JSX when I first heard it but after a while I got burnt of the sound. I can't quite put my finger on what it is, it seems kinda compressed sounding or thin after playing with it more.

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Don't get me wrong, it's a great sounding amp, just not as aggressive as a 5150 or VHT. It will handle megadeth or old metallica covers with no problem whatsoever.

It did sound a bit thin at first, but then again I know how to dial in an amp. A 5 minute guitar center review on ANY amplifier isn't really fair to the equipment IMHO... I generally pay more attention to gear reviews where people either own or have actually used the amps in a gigging or rehearsal situation vs a GC plug in.

Pete

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Don't get me wrong I think your evaluation is pretty accurate. Ans FYI it wasn't a GC plug my bro has one, has actually had two. The first one was a basket case and was taken back a month later after spending most of the month in the shop. The next one came directly from Peavey after many conversations with them and purchasing another directly from them. Supposedly the issue was with EH tubes they were recieving, whatever. Anyway I have spent many hours with the amp mic'ed up. I have used it with recto 4-12 , marshall 4 x12, and a Peavey with 80 watt celestions.

Anyway I think your post is kind of arrogant. Basically stating why your opinion is superior cause blah,blah. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] A GC plug in? Whatever? You must be the only guy that can afford a $900 amp. [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img] Also I haven't played any metallica or megadeth covers for probably 10 years [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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Never said my opinion was "superior" just that it was based on actually using the amp as it was intended - to gig with. My opinion stands, as does yours. Glad to see you haven't played covers in years, when your band comes to my area invite me on your tour bus and comp me some backstage passes. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Pete

[jgcable]

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I read the HC reviews too. Its a good starting point but the bottom line is going to be your ears. Especially live.

[Dreamland_Rebel]

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hey pete, if i plug guitar into my xt live then the xt live directly into the fx return of the JSX, will i have a volume control on the the amp? or will it be like a 5150 and be a set volume that you have to adjust from the xt live output trim?

[horns666]

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Siggs I have an Uber..an Uber is what a recto wishes to be when it grows up..

John Comprix , GC Manager and (Ripper's guitarist), and new Engle endoresee and I..had a recto and the HD147 cranked at GC after hours..within inches of each other..I'd take the HD over that fuzzy turd anyday of the week..including right now.

BTW..I'd take a 5150 over a Recto anyday of the week..

I have no use for recto..I bought one of the very first ones , right when they came out...tweaked it for a year...yuk! [img]/images/graemlins/sick.gif[/img]

I traded it for a Soladano HR 100..I liked THAT better right off the bat instantly..

Please, don't try and sell me something I kicked to the curb 15 years ago man..and whenever I do wonder if it really did SUCK..all I have to do is fire one up again ..just to remind myself why I kicked it to the curb in the first pace..in case I have dementia or something..but I don't..it still sucks..IMO. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Top Jimmy B]

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I had the pleasure of sitting in with a friends band on Saturday night and the other guitarist was using a JSX, which I plugged into, and the thing was great. I played three songs with them...Panama, Cult Of Personality, Crying In The Rain...and the amp sounded like a champ for all three. I used the crunch channel until it was solo time and then hit the Ultra channel. I played the dudes old BC Rich ST3 into a EVH Phase 90 and a Boss DD5.

I was really surprised how good that thing sounded on stage. When I tried it in the local shop it didn't sound anywhere near that cool. I guess JG is right, you really do need to try an amp in its intended setting.

[khabibissell]

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Not that I've got tons of experience, but I've actually had situations where the tone I was getting was crappy and thin while playing alone, but with the band it sounded great. [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img]

Sounds like the JSX is a pretty cool amp. One of these days I'd like to pick up a "Marshallish" sounding amp (JSX, Avenger, Stiletto, etc...). I think actual Marshalls are too expensive new.

For what it's worth, I have a Single Recto and I love it. It's a great amp, especially for the money. Very well built and sounds great.