Industry changing amps/pedals

[jgcable]

What would you consider to be the (just pick one for each category) most important industry changing amp to come out in the last 40 years for the following genre's? Be as specific as you can.

Country
Blues
Jazz
Pop
Rock
Metal

How about the most important industry changing ouboard effect? Be as specific as you can.

Country
Blues
Jazz
Pop
Rock
Metal

[atilla]

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Country: Hell if I know.
Blues: I want to say the Fender Twin, but there's probably something else in the Fender line that works a bit better...less headroom, more breakup at lower volume.
Jazz: Probably the Roland Jazz Chorus.
Pop: They use guitars in pop?!
Rock: I guess you have to go with the JMP. I could be wrong about the evolution of the Marshall line, but it seems like the JCM800 has its roots with that particular amp.
Metal: You have to recognize the Rectifier. Like it or not, it was the start of a new subcategory.

Outboard effects:
Country: Fender's original reverb unit
Blues: The slide!
Jazz: Got me there
Pop: Anything with lots of chorus?
Rock: Toss-up between the Tube Screamer and the wah.
Metal: Tube Screamer is pretty important here, too.

[catzodellamarina]

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Country amps - early Peaveys?

[hippietim]

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Amps:
Country - Fender Twin Reverb
Blues - Fender Deluxe
Jazz - Polytone Brute
Pop - I dunno - some sort of channel switcher
Rock - Fender Bassman - it's the grandpappy to the Marshall
Metal - Marshall JCM 800 or one of those damn Rectum Fryers

Effect
Country - compressor - no doubt there
Blues - maybe a tube screamer or a cry baby
Jazz - EQ
Pop - Boss CE-1
Rock - Fuzzface
Metal - Boss Noise Gate [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[jgcable]

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Pop amp: Vox AC30TB

Metal outboard effect: MXR Distortion +

[nor]

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M/B MkIII
Three channels, channel switching, cascading gain structures, interactive tone stack, switchable power amp configuration (SimulClass), industrial-grade chassis, gorgeous cabinetry, loud as hell. To the best of my knowledge almost all of these were industry firsts.

IMPACT: Rock and Metal. Think Whitesnake and Metallica.

+1 on the Distortion +

[toejam]

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Whatever's in the Boss GT-8. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Rupe]

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Amps:

Country-Twin Reverb
Blues-Tweed Bassman
Jazz-Polytone Mini-Brute
Pop-Vox AC30
Rock-Marshall JMP, JCM800
Metal-Mesa Mark series IIC+ and later

Outboard effect:

Country-Rotovibe
Blues-TS-808
Jazz-Dyna Comp
Pop-Boss DD series
Rock-Yamaha SPX90
Metal-ADA MP1

[eaeolian]

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Country: Twin
Blues: Deluxe
Jazz: Polytone Mini-Brute
Pop: Mesa MK II
Rock: Marshall JMP
Metal: (tie)Mesa Recto, Marshall JCM800

Effects would be hard for me to say...

[Endrik]

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M/B MkIII
Three channels, channel switching, cascading gain structures, interactive tone stack, switchable power amp configuration (SimulClass), industrial-grade chassis, gorgeous cabinetry, loud as hell. To the best of my knowledge almost all of these were industry firsts.

IMPACT: Rock and Metal. Think Whitesnake and Metallica.


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+1 Mark III is the holy grail of all the amos IMO.
The tone in Whitesnake's "You'r Gona Break My Heart Again" is so good that it isn't even funny. Every other tone that's been made isn't even close.

[jgcable]

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[ QUOTE ]
Amps:

Country-Twin Reverb
Blues-Tweed Bassman
Jazz-Polytone Mini-Brute
Pop-Vox AC30
Rock-Marshall JMP, JCM800
Metal-Mesa Mark series IIC+ and later

Outboard effect:

Country-Rotovibe
Blues-TS-808
Jazz-Dyna Comp
Pop-Boss DD series
Rock-Yamaha SPX90
Metal-ADA MP1

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Excellent list.
I am surprised nobody mentioned the Sholtz Rockman yet. It was sort of the grandfather of all guitar processors and modelers.

For rock amps I would have to say the Mesa Mark II. I believe its the first true 2 channel amp with a cascading preamp and effects loop. I might be totally wrong though. I tend to be wrong a fair amount of the time. [img]/images/graemlins/stupid.gif[/img]

[Twisteramps]

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First 2 channel amp with cascading preamp would be a dumble I believe. Ditto for the fx loop. All 'cascading preamp' means is that each gain stage is run into the next. A JCM800 2203 has a 'cascading preamp'.

Mark IIIs are cool amps, but they aren't that groundbreaking, other than the addition of a 3rd channel. If that's that big of a deal, then FOUR channel amps should really be included as groundbreaking too, right?

Pete

[GodOfRhythm]

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Agree on the MK II+ / MK III statement, but for other tones (mop [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] ).

[data187]

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i think certain combinations of guitar and amps create an industry's sound.
for example, i think of super strat type of guitars into marshalls for the 80's sound.
les paul into marshalls for the 90's grunge sound
prs into recto's for the nu metal sound
now i see alot of prs into line 6 which is probably the sound of this current generation.

i think the most influential piece of equipment these last couple of years is the pod. it completely changes the way everyone records, practices, and even performs. like it or not, it's here to stay.

[Rupe]

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I agree with alot of equipment that is being brought up (POD, Rectifier, etc) as being groundbreaking, but I was looking at the "last 40 years" criteria and picking items that have stood the test of time. Jury is out on the POD although the outlook it bright, and the original Rectifier has nothing to do with any classic metal tones that I dig. This one (DR) is close, but I can't call it groundbreaking yet in that I don't see it used widely among many genres of metal...it is associated most often with a nu-metal tone (I know it does more than that...that's just where its found its largest following). I think the Mark series (btw, I believe Randal Smith's Mark I beat Dumble to the punch with the cascading gain stages in the preamp) that I mentioned earlier really kicked it off for high gain metal amps and continue to kick ass to this day with extreme versatility in the genre.
I did consider listing the Rockman, but I couldn't think of anyone outside of Boston, ZZ Top, and Def Leppard that used it to any great extent. It was groundbreaking as a practice tool, but I don't know that it made a huge difference in any of the particular genres that were mentioned. Thoughts?