How similar are the Mark III & IV?

[siggy14]

Re: How similar are the Mark III & IV?

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Black Album = Mark IV, period.

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with just the preamp going into a power amp.

[Boxcar Willie 84]

Re: How similar are the Mark III & IV?

Black Album=Mark IV, Mark IIC, a boatload of Marshall, ADA, Bogner, VHT, Vox, and other assorted amps, all tracked with multiple tracks at the same time.

[Twisteramps]

Re: How similar are the Mark III & IV?

The IV that I played through at a friend's house seemed a lot grainier than my III. What do I know, I prefer the studio.22+ over the IV or IIIs [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Pete

[GodOfRhythm]

Re: How similar are the Mark III & IV?

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Black Album=Mark IV, Mark IIC, a boatload of Marshall, ADA, Bogner, VHT, Vox, and other assorted amps, all tracked with multiple tracks at the same time.

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I was talking about this thread and his choices.

I spent upwards of 500 hours researching Metallica gear on the Black Album alone, getting into contact with former roadies, anazlying video's and bootlegs, etc etc, it's become quite an extensive list. Soon I shall unveil its marvels to the world [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Endrik]

Re: How similar are the Mark III & IV?

Please do, I wanna know [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[Fragle]

Re: How similar are the Mark III & IV?

"Please do, I wanna know "
indeed.

and btw, GoR, you're a freak [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Endrik]

Re: How similar are the Mark III & IV?

Ward, what color where Lars' socks at the 1986 tour's 5th show?

[Robotechnology]

Re: How similar are the Mark III & IV?

I was playing thru a MKIII blue stripe head (among other nice toys) Sunday night after a gig. Sounded very, very good. You can dial in Metallica-ish tones with it (smiley face EQ) and it sounds great. Way good for the money!

[GodOfRhythm]

Re: How similar are the Mark III & IV?

He seldomly wore socks during the MOP tour. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Or ordinary nike white sneakers with white socks.

Ultimate MOP tone from an Mk III would be the blue stripe, indeed, since it's the closest in leadchannelshaping to the IIC+. You could also have your Mk III modded into a + by MB.

[buzzsaww]

Re: How similar are the Mark III & IV?

my mark is a blue stripe [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] totally lucked out though. knew nothing of the whole stripe thing when i got it years ago. the mark3 sounds ok low but you gotta turn it up for the true effect. KABOOM!

[hippietim]

Re: How similar are the Mark III & IV?

A MK IV has more knobs and switches, therefore it is the superior amplifier. I had an original MK I (before they called them MK). It was ok. Mostly it weighed a ton.

I'd like to mess around with a MK IV one of these days.

[slayer]

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Can a Rectifier do the MOP sound? I can get close with my Peavey Ultra and a Boss MT-2 pedal, just not nearly as thick. Jack.

[zeegler]

Re: How similar are the Mark III & IV?

So what is the deal with the blue, red, and purple stripe? Enlighten the unknowledgeable please.

[GodOfRhythm]

Re: How similar are the Mark III & IV?

Do a search on google for the Mark seriesn you'll find:

http://homepage.mac.com/mesaboogie/dot.html

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And thank god I read over it again, because I made a mistake; the blue stripe has the IIC+-like poweramp, it's the Red stripe that has the IIC+ lead channel.

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A rectifier could zoom in pretty close, as could any more expensive/boutique-ish amp, nailing it is a different thing though. To achieve such thickness, I'm going to experiment ( once I get an amp [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] ) with looping the signal upon itself in a live (i.o.w. non-album) setting. You could re-enact some of the studio 'layering'.

On Master Of Puppets you'll be hearing 5 and more rhythm tracks all played in seperatly and layered upon each other, copied, tweaked, layered again, etc, you get an exponential number of rhythmtracks and layers, which all adds to it. It wasn't until the Black Album that Bob Rock showed them you could EQ the sound a shitload, and achieve somewhat the same effect, eventhough I personally think a mixture of both (but still predominantly layering) would be key to achieving the ultimate godlike rhythm sound (which would be Master Of Puppets Ultra [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] ).


Such concludes the monologue! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[DSS3]

Re: How similar are the Mark III & IV?

Thanks for all the advice, guys. I've fallen too far in love with my 5150 to want another amp just yet, though. It's perfect for me.