Marshall JMP-1

[achren_git]

Re: Marshall JMP-1

is that this engl? http://www.thomann.de/thoiw2_engl_e5..._prodinfo.html

haven't seen anywhere in the UK that stocks them, although thomann is good at £345 inc delivery

[Cleveland Metal]

Re: Marshall JMP-1

Yes, that is the entry level ENGL. It sounds quite nice. Basically a two channel preamp, tho they call it four. Each channel has some switchable something on it. So, sorta like four channels, haha. But, the tone is considerably better for my uses than the Marshall. And although it doesn't have 100 patches of what is basically similiar tons like the Marshall, this does kick arse. And at least the distortion is a real tube type and not solid state-ish sounding.

Regardless of what they proclaim, the Marshall distortion on the JMP-1 is NOT truly tube, tho there are two ax7 tubes giving some "gain stages", they aren't the main distortion in it. The Marshall distortion when running high distortion is from a diode bridge that is near the front end of the amp. Look at schematic, you'll see. The the path is through the tube but that is not where the glut of the distortion is derived from.

Of course, not that it is bad thing, many great and classic sounds come from a situation like that. It's just overpriced and underbuilt for the dough, that is all that I'm saying.

Get one cheap, for 2 bills, and It's a cool deal. Not for me, but, for someone. Other wise, there are cooler things out there, at least in the US.

[achren_git]

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yeah, I think the choice in the UK is alot more limited in terms of rack gear anyway. The Engl looks good though, although i do like the option of 100 patches the marshall gives,
cheers
Callum

[Cleveland Metal]

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Sad, the marshall could be so much more. MIDI, 100 patches, effects loop, sounds good to me. It's just dated and limited on its tone. Aside from what I've mentioned already.

Yes, 100 patches, but of basically differing degrees of the same thing. And I'm not so impressed with the thing, haha.

Weird the ENGL is hard to get there, it's sorta hard to get here as well, but you guys are closer to them than we are.

Have you looked at (or are they available there) the Tech 21 PSA-1 rack preamp unit? Solid state but VERY cool. Full MIDI control, well over a 100 patches, and VERY VERY flexible. And a bit cheaper than the Marshall (maybe not used tho, they hold their value). From Crystal cleans, too brutal heavy, from a fender strat twang to a MESA heavy and more. I enjoyed mine a lot and regret selling.

[siggy14]

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OK let me chime in here, i have a marshall JMP-1 and i also have the ADA. I am happy because i got my JMP-1 for $350 shipped a few years ago, before the prices went sky high. What i can tell you is for the marshall tone the JMP is the way to go, it will give you everything from the original JMP's all the way up too the 900's and slighly beyond. With the right power amp you can make it sound mean has hell for newer metal, however with that being said, this preamp is strictly marshall, you want the marshall tone get this preamp.

Personaly i think you could do better getting a ADA MP-1 from Voodoo, they take a ADA and mod it. Great sounding preamp and will probaly cost you less.

Voodoo page http://www.voodooamps.com/ampsforsale.html

[Fragle]

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cleve, if the engl 530 is anything like the blackmore head it's got NOTHING on the jmp1. contrary to what you said, i found the jmp1 to be much more organic and warm than the engl which had a solid state vibe going on. tubes or not, the jmp1 kicks the engl out of the water.

[Cleveland Metal]

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Sorry bro, I just don't think I agree.

I have owned the JMP-1 for a couple years, and I have a friends 620 I think it is (not 530)here and it smokes the Marshall in tone.

[achren_git]

Re: Marshall JMP-1

I have to say, I've only tried the fireball, but I wasn't greatly impressed. I know a few folk on here are raving about them, guess it's as much to do with taste as anything.
cheers

btw had a look at the PSA-1 and they go for about £650 new and maybe £300+ 2nd hand if you can find one (i.e. more than a JMP-1)

[Fragle]

Re: Marshall JMP-1

so maybe we just have to agree to disagree on this thing. i know from personal experience that the engl just has a rather unpleasant high end characteristic that just cannot be dialed out, in contrast to the marshall which can both sound really harsh or really smooth (in terms of marshall tone, of course).
as far as build quality goes....ok, i'm not a tech, but i can say that both didn't give me any problems, and i've gigged with the engl without a backup for several times.

but then again, bro, my experience with engl's is limited to the blackmore and powerball heads. maybe the preamps are different. i don't understand it anyways, all the savage 120 clips i've heared so far sound KILLER (and i've heared them live for a few times, always with a good result), even though the blackmore is said to sound very similar to the savage - after all it's basically stripped down savage120.


as far as the psa1 goes....it's OK. definitely one of the better preamps, but not even close to stuff like the mesa triaxis/quad, or the jmp1. it's all solid state, and you notice it. i've used one for a short while, and it's ok for lower volume stuff, but can sound rather unpleasant when used live - you really have to keep the highs in check. it has a very tight bottom end, though.....people who are looking for a e.g. marshall valvestate 8100 sound in a rack format should definitely consider the psa1.

[atomic charvel guy]

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all you need with a jmp1- superlead 100 is some work from Mark Cameron, and the right AMOUNT OF PRACTICE, all you are in need of is a crybaby. that's it.

[Fragle]

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dude we're talking about the jmp-1 preamp, not the jmp superlead 100 head [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] D: [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Cleveland Metal]

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Ehh, they're talking about the Marshall JMP-1 Rack preamp Tommy. Not the real deal amp you're referring to.

[horns666]

Re: Marshall JMP-1

I really dig the JMP-1 and my 9200 Monobloc w 5881s..bought it new 10 years ago..been trustworthy and consistant ever since..

what I LOVE about it is this>>>

"CONSISTANCY"..ANY head I have ever owned including my Uber..I would tweak a great tone one day ..come back the next day and it's gone...and then tweak some more till blue in the face..because "something" isn't right.. [img]/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]

with the JMP-1 that NEVER happens..it's plug and PLAY..

SO instead of getting tweak time...your getting more "playing" time..and I much rather be a better player than a tweaker..

Now If I want to twiddle a knob...I go to the porn site! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

As far as "HEAVY"...well..I did post a "demo" of some thrashing / black metal riffage..so yeah...it can do that O' plenty..it has a GREAT lead tone..

I get a Glen Drover / Criss Oliva on steroids tone with my set up..that's not a bad thing. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

I must agree that the price new was VERY high ...and there is much better made amps out there these days for the same coin..

but if you can grab 'em cheap used..do it..IMO!

John's NEVER sounded right from day one..he did have nothing but probs with his..plus it was the EL34 version..which SUCKS in comparison to the 5881 version IMO!