Vetta HD Live review....

[jgcable]

I am not digging it.
I used a Vetta HD and a Mesa 1/2 back 4 x 12 cab with the Line 6 Longboard.
How was my rhythm tone? Excellent
How was my clean tone? Excellent
How was my lead tone? Uninspiring, lifeless, synthetic and boring BUT THATS NOT THE BAD PART.
THE DELAY IN THE CHANNEL SWITCHING SUCKS ASS. The fact that the effects don't spill over SUCKS ASS. When I am playing Dokken and Ratt songs I am constantly switching from rhythm to lead throughout the song. I can't have a delay in channel switching and no effect spillover. It sucks to hear the delay just suddenly stop and a few milliseconds of silence between my solo and my rhythm channels. My Boss GT6 has absolutely NO delay in patch switching.
Here is what I think I am doing wrong. I am setting up 2 identical patches for my rhythm and lead channels. The only difference is that I boost the volume and add a little delay and midrange to the solo channel. The problem is there is a delay when switching channels.
I went to the Vettaville website and they told me I should use the stomp box buttons for solo boost. I should assign a boost pedal to one of the stomp box buttons and use it for solo boost.
I'll try it but I gotta tell you. I really didn't dig playing the Vetta live. It just wasn't fun like my Soldano is. The solo tone was thin compared to the rhythm tone.
The other problem with the Vetta is you really need to set up your patches at the level you will be gigging at. Thats a pain in the ass because I am not quite sure what my live volume will be.
HERE IS THE QUESTION I NEED TO ASK to the Vetta users here.
How do you guys get past the channel switching delay live?

[DSS3]

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Meshuggah brings along 3 heads to get past it [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].

Otherwise, I'd just stay with your tubeamps, to be honest. Unless you really need what it gives, it can't be THAT much hard to bring your soldano/g-major rig.

[jgcable]

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Meshuggah brings along 3 heads to get past it [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].

Otherwise, I'd just stay with your tubeamps, to be honest. Unless you really need what it gives, it can't be THAT much hard to bring your soldano/g-major rig.

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My Soldano rig is all set to go and super simple to set up. I just wanted to try the Vetta out live since I just got it. It sounds great but it has some serious flaws that I just can't live with live.

[jgcable]

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BTW... I got alot of compliments regarding my guitar sound. It seems that most (if not all) of the crowd liked it.
I liked the rhythm tones but not my solo boost channels and DAMN THAT CHANNEL SWITCHING DELAY!!
I gotta try that stomp box technique I was told about.
I will keep you all updated on my progress.

[Fragle]

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strange....i just had a similar experience with my 5150. no, i'm not talking about channel switching delay [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] it's just that yesterday i had my first rehearsal with the 5150, and somehow i don't quite like it as much at high volumes. you were right, the mids really get a lot more pronounced at higher volumes, and imho this turns the REALLY nice low/moderate volume sound into a boxy car horn....maybe i just need more tweaking time at these volumes.....otherwise it's soon to be gone, sad but true.....similar to your vetta i suppose [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
anyways, good luck bro with your amp journey [img]/images/graemlins/toast.gif[/img]

[thebisch]

Re: Vetta HD Live review....

Digital modeling, for guitar at least, doesn't belong on a stage. Keep the modeling at home or in the studio.

[Shawn Lutz]

Re: Vetta HD Live review....

maybe Pete wiill jump in as he has gig experience with it.

w/o killing the dead horse of the modeler debate - that is the shortcomng with them, not the switching part, the semi-so-so cool lead tones. They are cool though and when they get it right, I'll be the first in line.

[jgcable]

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maybe Pete wiill jump in as he has gig experience with it.

w/o killing the dead horse of the modeler debate - that is the shortcomng with them, not the switching part, the semi-so-so cool lead tones. They are cool though and when they get it right, I'll be the first in line.

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The lead tones sound incredible at home low or loud. The problem is when you throw the Vetta in the mix with a Mesa Boogie Stiletto, a bass player with a killer SWR rig and a drummer who pounds his drums into the dirt. The Vetta lead tones really get lost in the mix unless I turn the amp up really loud.
I am not that bummed about it. I am pretty sure its just a tweaking thing. I just got the Vetta and only have had 2 weeks to mess with it so far.
Good thing I have my Soldano. Thats going to the next gig for sure. I should have brought it to this one but I wanted to try out my new toy.
Oh yea... Sambencuda's Stiletto... Its the best Boogie I have ever heard. What an amazing amp. Pete (Twisteramps) would absolutely love it.

[hippietim]

Re: Vetta HD Live review....

John - my favorite solo boost on the vetta is to kick in the tube screamer.

The other thing you can do is use the dual amp model feature and switch between amps for lead/rhythm within the same patch. There is no delay when you do that.

[Dreamland_Rebel]

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also, check to see if it's "latched" switching. if so, you are causing the delay. try stepping of the button early and letting off when you want it to actually change. if the buttons are "latched" this will solve your problem.

[jgcable]

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Cool. I will try all the suggestions. I wish the G-Major had as many killer effects as the Vetta has.

[Twisteramps]

Re: Vetta HD Live review....

*shrugs* I never had a problem with channel switching delay, but I used a FCB1010 behringer. Not sure if that makes much of a difference.

Regarding lead tones - I never had a problem with those either. I think it's whatever we're used to. You can also run your amp tones with the volume control - where full up is one amp, full down is the other - and 'morph' between them. It's a lot more organic way to channel switch than POW clean sound POW dirty sound etc.

I liked my Vetta. It was really enjoyable to have some tube snob realize that the tones he was giving me compliments on were generated by a modelling amp. It was priceless at times. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[jk2171]

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JG - If you're open to it, I'd love to know what models and settings your using for the Ratt and Dokken sound. I think I have a pretty good Old School tone on my Vetta, but I'd love to know what other users are doing. Thanks.

[jgcable]

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*shrugs* I never had a problem with channel switching delay, but I used a FCB1010 behringer. Not sure if that makes much of a difference.

Regarding lead tones - I never had a problem with those either. I think it's whatever we're used to. You can also run your amp tones with the volume control - where full up is one amp, full down is the other - and 'morph' between them. It's a lot more organic way to channel switch than POW clean sound POW dirty sound etc.

I liked my Vetta. It was really enjoyable to have some tube snob realize that the tones he was giving me compliments on were generated by a modelling amp. It was priceless at times. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I can't imagine that the Behringer footpedal could work better than the Line 6 FBV Longboard.

[Twisteramps]

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Well, I don't think it would work any *worse*. Does the longboard use Midi? The Behringer does... I went with the behringer for two reasons:

1) cheaper!
2) I could customize it completely. If I wanted one step access to 10 different patches, I could have that... or if I wanted 9 and one controller to be set for tap tempo, or turning off/on stompboxes, etc - I could do that too. Even could assign the volume/wah pedal to anything also.

Was a lot more flexible, but a bit of a pain to figure out programming. the Line6 board is a lot better if you don't want to dig very deep and just plug in and go. I usually like to go below the surface on my gear, so the behringer was great for me.