mesa stiletto duece ver 1

[Dreamland_Rebel]

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rupe, you need to try my settings. i think you would agree with me after you've heard them. you can turn the gain up all the way with out any mud!

[Rupe]

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On a recto or Stiletto? I love the Stiletto...I think its one of the best amps (maybe the best) to ever come out of the Mesa factory.
I don't care for the recto, although like I said, I have gotten some decent tones out of it, as I've heard others do as well. My complaint is that it seems like a vast majority of the people who use that amp don't have a clue as to the basic fundamentals of good tone. Tone is subjective to a degree, but there is a point where it is bad (doesn't sit well in a mix) no matter what that persons individual tastes are. Sounds like you are one of the few with a clue. What are some album references you would use for good tone?

[Deneb]

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I basically thought the amp sucked, but the best sounds I got out of it, were through a 1960 cab, with 75s. Even the guitar center guy said (wow, that makes a difference!)

[akoch]

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"If I get a Recto, some Mark series amp and a Stiletto, so I basically cover all the grounds right? I wouldn't need anything else?"
I'm not sure, at least this is not my experience. I have Mark IV, a TSL as well, and for many years had JCM800. I can't see any similarities between the Mark's sound and JCMs (TSL on amber channel is exact JCM800 sound). If people say Stiletto is closer to Mark, than you will probably be able to cover Mesa's sound territory quite nicely, but not beyond that.

[khabibissell]

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Lets not forget about the F-Series when talking about Mesa cleans. My F50's clean is outstanding.

+10000022200 on diming the mids and bass on the Rectos... Actually, I setup the F50 that way too now. I've had the Recto for over two years (single) and F50 for about a year and a half, and that is honestly the best way to play it. Of course, it works best in Modern mode. I usually use the vintage mode, with an overdrive in front. With the amp setup that way it is tight, and slices through the mix much better than with any other setting.

[khabibissell]

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Oh yeah... I just want to say that I hate every single one of you that picked up a Stiletto for that insane price. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]That was a steal! [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]

Mesa makes excellent amplifiers.

[Dreamland_Rebel]

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rupe, you can use these setting for both the rec and the stiletto, and many old marshalls and new marshalls (if you put the tone shift(s) back to nuetral) and even the mark series boogies (though not as well).

both are similar amps. the stiletto is like a mesa modded marshall and the rectifier is like a mesa modded fender.

and each one can cover most of there respected brands entire line of amps.

my guess is that (with modern trends considered) they decided to shift the stilettos towards bogners market.

at lest that is how i felt after i talked to someone at boogie. the guy told me that they were tweaking the amp out for its new 50watt (ACE) power section and stumbled into some "uncharted territories" (i guess for boogie anyway). which lead to the revision of the whole PC board inside. he also said that he thinks some players are not going to like version 2 as much as version 1. and some players will only like version 2.

anyway, i would like to know what the new ones sound like, but i am so glad i picked on up. it's doing it for me! [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]

[Fragle]

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"rectifier is like a mesa modded fender"
more like a mesa modded soldano slo [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Endrik]

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no Soldano is totally different than Mesa, it's like a hot rodded Marshall.

Mesa is the hi-gain-Fender, Boogies are one of the few companies whos "base" were Fenders not Marshalls.

akoch, I have no problem dialing the JCM tone with Boogies,

[Fragle]

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oh stop it dammit....it's been said COUNTLESS times that both the 5150 and the rectifier technically are VERY close to the soldano slo 100. the 5150 moreso than the recto, but nevertheless there IS a relation.
the mark series however definitely are hotrodded fenders.

[Endrik]

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I've played countless times with all of them, each one were so different from eachother. And I've never personally seen or heard how somone could dial SLO tone with recto or 5150 or the oppisite way. If you can, then you must be a helluva tweaker [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[Fragle]

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as i said, they are technically related. of course there is a sonic difference, largely because of the components used (soldano slo trannys are the creme de la creme, whereas peavey and mesa have to cut costs in order to make their stuff affordable)

[Deneb]

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no Soldano is totally different than Mesa, it's like a hot rodded Marshall.

Mesa is the hi-gain-Fender, Boogies are one of the few companies whos "base" were Fenders not Marshalls.

akoch, I have no problem dialing the JCM tone with Boogies,

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Weren't the old Marks (boogies) basically modded Fenders? I do believe I've got that article in Guitar Player somewhere.

[Dreamland_Rebel]

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yes they were. randall smith would rebiuld fenders with better parts and taylor there tone to his ears. he did the same thing with mercedes engines. (that is what paid for him to start up his amp co.)

the rectifier was boogies first attempt at "Super" high gain. soldano had helped pave the way along with many other amp modders. and randall smith wanted to compete in that market aswell.

but the stiletto is their first attempt at british based tones.

[quakana]

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I have been thinking about buying this one as well....this or can anyone compare it to a
Marshall TSL 2000 or Mode four? I have owned Mesa Mark III and quad preamp with stereo295 so am a Boogie fan
Thanks Guys