Confession of a Modeled Amp user

[catzodellamarina]

I agree with Line6 being good for metal. It's so easy to dial in metal sounds and get razorblade edge with them. I can easily jam along to CD's. I've heard other complaints from metal guys about the amp getting lost in a live mix. Is this a combination of poor EQ'ing and weak headroom wattage?

On the flipside, I've found my Line6's to produce beautiful cleans and nice Fender OD sounds. My stuff is old. The Vetta is probably very impressive. I'd love to buy every amp recommended to me but I don't want to eat bologna sandwiches for the rest of my life in my van down by the river..

[jgcable]

I agree with Line6 being good for metal. It's so easy to dial in metal sounds and get razorblade edge with them. I can easily jam along to CD's. I've heard other complaints from metal guys about the amp getting lost in a live mix. Is this a combination of poor EQ'ing and weak headroom wattage?

On the flipside, I've found my Line6's to produce beautiful cleans and nice Fender OD sounds. My stuff is old. The Vetta is probably very impressive. I'd love to buy every amp recommended to me but I don't want to eat bologna sandwiches for the rest of my life in my van down by the river..

The Vetta has no problem cutting through any live mix. I know first hand. It can hold its own against Triple Recto's, Duals, 5150's, JCM800's, Mark III's and Stiletto's. I have played live with my Vetta and these amps and I had absolutely no problem being heard.

[Shawn]

As a Vetta II lover, I am also willing to say that I do like tube amps as well. Matter of fact, have an Orange coming in Monday. I think the point is, for versatility and sound choices, you dont beat a Vetta . Period.


Shawn

[hgsmith]

The Vetta has no problem cutting through any live mix. I know first hand. It can hold its own against Triple Recto's, Duals, 5150's, JCM800's, Mark III's and Stiletto's. I have played live with my Vetta and these amps and I had absolutely no problem being heard.

Did the early version vetta's have problems with this?

[~K~]

As a Vetta II lover, I am also willing to say that I do like tube amps as well. Matter of fact, have an Orange coming in Monday. I think the point is, for versatility and sound choices, you dont beat a Vetta . Period.


Shawn

See this is exactly my point of view.. You wont see someone who uses a Vetta bash tube amps.. They see each as its own tool and that they have a place. Tube snobs will consistently bash line6 users and belittle them like they know nothing about their gear...

would you bring a knife to a gun fight? Then why bring an Uberschall to a top 40 gig ....

[jgcable]

See this is exactly my point of view.. You wont see someone who uses a Vetta bash tube amps.. They see each as its own tool and that they have a place. Tube snobs will consistently bash line6 users and belittle them like they know nothing about their gear...

would you bring a knife to a gun fight? Then why bring an Uberschall to a top 40 gig ....

Exactly.

[jgcable]

Did the early version vetta's have problems with this?

No, the Vetta never had that problem.

[donvandam]

Hey Harrison, you are entitled to your opinion. Tone is so subjective.
The problem with trying a Vetta in the store is it has been messed with by a million kids who haven't a clue. Also, in my experience, the Vetta doesn't sound good until you learn how to use it.
I love the Single Rectifier. Its my favorite of any of the Rectifier series along with the Tremoverb.
The AX2 and the Flextone amps are LIGHTYEARS away from the current Vetta.
When you find a great tone, keep it for as long as you can. My favorite tone is Soldano. I also really like the Mesa Mark III (purple stripe) and IV. For basic metal or rock tone I like Marshall based tone the best.
For clean, I like the JC120 and the Fender Super and Twin Reverb.
The Vetta does a great job on all of the above.
Before my best friend and myself bought Vetta's we a/b'd them against a 1st year Mesa Dual Recto and a brand new Triple (my buddy owns both of them). We used the Mesa oversized 4 x 12 cabs for the comparison.
The Vetta absolutely smoked the Mesa's to our ears.
Live.. I flop between a Soldano based rack system that consists of:
Soldano SP77 USA
Carvin T100 modded to run 5881's
TC Electronics G-Major
Rane SP15 parametric EQ
Furman
Shure Wireless
DMC Control 1 midi controller
Morley Bad Horsie 2
I run this rig through 2 Randall 2 x 12 slant cabs. 1 is open with 300w Altec Lansing White frames. The other is closed with Celestion Vintage 30's.
I only get 2 basic tones. Clean and high gain. The clean is decent and totally useable. The high gain is the best tone I ever heard in my 30 years of playing. The G-Major gives me solo boost and studio quality effects but basically it is a 2 channel rig (with solo boost)

My Vetta rig consists of:
Vetta HD upgraded with 2.5 software
Line 6 FBV longboard
2 Randall cabinets
It is a true stereo rig. All of my delays and choruses are panning or ping pong. I also use the double tracker and I route many of my cabs or amp models specifically left or right.
The Vetta 2.5 does everything I could ever want in an amp. There isn't a single thing I would change or need to add. Its basically perfect.

I have a back up live rig consisting of:
Marshall 8004
Ross 31 band EQ
Middle Atlantic power conditioner
Boss GT-6
I run this with a Mesa 3/4 back cab

IMHO, the Boss GT-6 is one of the best floor processors/modelers on the market. Simple to set up, bulletproof and sounds great.


For home use I have a vintage Carvin X60 1 x 12 combo with a 75w Celestion running Ruby EL34's and either Telefunken's or Ruby preamp tubes
I use a Ibanez TS9DX tube screamer with it.
I love playing out of tube amps but I think that my modeling amps actually sound better live.

The Carvin X60 is basically a boutique 1 x 12 combo at a fraction of the price of a real boutique amp. Its crazy loud, it has a fantastic clean channel, the gain channel is perfectly suited to throw a tube screamer in front of, it has a footswitchable (non adjustable) 6db solo boost and channel switching. It also has outstanding reverb and is extremely well made. I use it for my SRV stuff. Its my favorite amp to noodle on because although I am a neo-classical shredder, my favorite style of music to play is Texas blues. Give me my strat and my Carvin and I am happy as a clam.

I guess that proves that tone is subjective. If you find a good amp tone you have taken a major step towards winning the battle.

Hey...Wanna Jam? heh, I don't live too far!

[jgcable]

Hey...Wanna Jam? heh, I don't live too far!

Hell yea.. where do you live in CT???

[RacerX]

Hopefully not Shelton

[donvandam]

Hell yea.. where do you live in CT???

New Haven!

[jgcable]

New Haven!

Damn dude.. thats close. We should get together and shred a little. JG

[donvandam]

Definitly!

[catzodellamarina]

How do the new Spider heads compare (sound, effects) to the Vetta? For example, my old Spider I had limited effects, which was fine, but the quality of the effects were lower than my AX2. The Vetta is cool but has too many features I'd never use. I'd be more inclined to buy a new Spider head if it's basically the Vetta quality with less features.

[thetroy]

How do the new Spider heads compare (sound, effects) to the Vetta? For example, my old Spider I had limited effects, which was fine, but the quality of the effects were lower than my AX2. The Vetta is cool but has too many features I'd never use. I'd be more inclined to buy a new Spider head if it's basically the Vetta quality with less features.

The Spider is not that, but I think the HD147 is. Someone correct me if I'm wrong