Marshall TSL 2000 100 Watt 2x12

[jgcable]

Hey Jack,,, not for nothing but have you ever tried a 5150??

[slayer]

No John, I have never tried, believe it or not a 5150/JSX/Recto or a Stiletto. I really nead to get out more often

[horns666]

get a 5150..and call it a day..

[jgcable]

get a 5150..and call it a day..

Exactly.

[Cleveland Metal]

I had my Marshall 900s (that broke a lot) dialed good (lotsa outboard stuff) and the leads were great but the low end grind sucked..

I had my 5150s (that never broke) dialed where the low end grind was awesome but the leads sorta did NOT have the Marshall sweetness (el34 vs 6L6 of course).

But man, I hate Marshalls now... except the old 800 and olde MK series. 900 and later suck ass to me... DSL/TSl,/SLX...ugh... I'm sorry, I'm picky on tone and hate when shit breaks... If you GAVE me a newer Marshall, I'd ebay it in a heartbeat.

Guess that's why i went CAE3+se and VHT (KT88) and I'm cool now mosly... Wish I could buy a head I reallllly loved tho...

[horns666]

I had my Marshall 900s (that broke a lot) dialed good (lotsa outboard stuff) and the leads were great but the low end grind sucked..

I had my 5150s (that never broke) dialed where the low end grind was awesome but the leads sorta did NOT have the Marshall sweetness (el34 vs 6L6 of course).

But man, I hate Marshalls now... except the old 800 and olde MK series. 900 and later suck ass to me... DSL/TSl,/SLX...ugh... I'm sorry, I'm picky on tone and hate when shit breaks... If you GAVE me a newer Marshall, I'd ebay it in a heartbeat.

Guess that's why i went CAE3+se and VHT (KT88) and I'm cool now mosly... Wish I could buy a head I reallllly loved tho...

I'm witness to John on every step of the way on this one..fuck, that's all we do and talk about...for how many years now???

John dialed up a very sweet lead tone with his 900..boosted the input with his wireless and gave it a very "edgy" 2210-ish "Edge of Thorns" era tone to my ears..!!!

You can sweeten up the lead tones now with the 5150's ..ala wahs and whatnots..The Amotts and In Flames do damn good with them..good examples of nice 5150 lead tones..

You have to work on getting a cool mix of the singing lead tone and a chunky rythm chug..I found the leads tones are a tad dead when I dialed up a cool chug sound..

The 900s were thinner sounding versions of the late 800s with very weak bottom end..they can "sing" when dialed in with the assist of external eqs..my JMP-1/9200 (5881's) sounds full and has that 2210 vibe to it, with a tad more bottom and edge..it's pretty consistant.

The 2000 series to John and my ears is just buzzy, undefined muddy mush..The only sound we discovered usable/likeable was thru the clean cannel w/ a old Korg Hyper distortion..but the volume of that channel is so weak..when maxed it wasn't neary up to snuff for band levels...the gain of that amp just doesn't feel right for us..it's somewhat loose and flubby compared to the sharp definition of the prior marshalls..it has the "nu" sound to them in our opinion..that's just not us!!

We heard some great players use 2000s and sound fine tho..they get away with it just peachy..Reb Beach and Doud Aldrich are good examples..

My favorite player sounded his best live with a Recto.. John and I don't get along with them very well..we like the cabs tho..

Pat Travers said.."Go with what ya know"..it's your fingers and ears..a "good" will make 'em both happy..

When your happy , you'll be on your game and that's what people notice most..I think.