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  • Originally posted by toejam
    And, yes, he had tongue cancer and went right back to smoking. If that's not a retard, then I don't know what is.
    That is an addict. Cigarettes are very, very hard to put down.

    Mike
    Sleep. The sound doesn't collapse to riffs of early eyes either.

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    • My dad smoked for a very, very long time. He went in the hospital for a stress test in '99... they wouldn't let him leave because they found clogged arteries and said he needed a double bypass, then they said a triple, then he wound up having a quadruple bypass. He hasn't smoked since.
      I feel my soul go cold... only the dead are smiling.

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      • Originally posted by toejam
        Well, he is an alcoholic, he's said it himself, and I'm pretty sure I remember reading about him saying that his dad was, also.
        And, yes, he had tongue cancer and went right back to smoking. If that's not a retard, then I don't know what is.
        Well, I'm going with you don't know what a retard is. I suspect that you have no idea what you are talking about. Unless you've smoked or battled an addiction then you have no clue.

        I've never heard Eddie say he's an alcoholic but if he is then it is indeed a bummer that he is like nearly 17.6 million other adult Americans.
        I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

        - Newc

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        • Originally posted by toejam
          My dad smoked for a very, very long time. He went in the hospital for a stress test in '99... they wouldn't let him leave because they found clogged arteries and said he needed a double bypass, then they said a triple, then he wound up having a quadruple bypass. He hasn't smoked since.
          That's great for your dad. He truly is the exception from what I've seen and I've been around smokers all my life and I smoked myself for about 14-15 years.
          I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

          - Newc

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          • Tim, and dudes just quit man..I smoked two packs of Winston/Marlboro for over 20 years..I quit just after Vinny was born in '95..they just went to two bucks a pack..they're double that now..or more..

            It was very hard..the first few days is a bitch..I ate like a pig and cranky as hell..but I got over that hump and it got easier from there until I didn't miss it anymore..

            For about the first two weeks I smoked those cheap and stinky middleton(sp) cherry or black N' mild cigars ..just to keep the monkey off my back..those got old quick and was a sinch to kick 'em..

            I never knew how much cig smoke stunk..until I stopped..

            Whenever I go to a show..I immediately shower and throw my clothes in the wash..it just stinks..you can't smell that when you smoke..I didn't

            Now I can see why people bitch about it..I thought they were petty asses when I puffed around them..they really wern't..it just stinks!

            also..you won't believe how much pocket money you'll have..it'll help out with filling your tank anywhoo..

            My mom smoked even longer and she kicked it..we never looked back..best thing we ever did..

            you can do it too..it's just a mindset ...but you have to be ready to say ..Fuggit!!!

            what made me stop was the cost, my kid and the constant hacking and coughing..

            Good luck..kick that shit..yeah I know how hard it is..and once you quit, don't sneak a puff a week or two later (especially after sex, a meal or drinking) because then you suffered all that time for nothing because you'll be hooked again instantly..and you're back at square one.

            Bye guys..I just got my metal shipment today..the UPS dude drops them as he hands it to me..it's fine tho..

            Later..

            Bill

            continue with the Ed..
            "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
            Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

            "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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            • Guys.....
              Some people will find this as a golden opportunity to put down and kick while he is down somebody they never liked. That is fine, if you don't like EVH take your shots.

              Some other people, myself included in this group, will get upset at him for the shit pile he is let himself become. Putting aside the fact that he's let vices run his life for him is bad enough. It has been proven here that you CAN kick these things off, if you don't WAT to then don't fuck it.

              I resent him greatly because he was given a gift. A gift that some of us will give a nut for 1% of whatever he got. Yet, he let's it go to waste by being a flat out asshole to his bandmates, except Alex, and by being a drunk.
              Some being greater than us placed an unimaginable talent among us and that talent let the second half of his life lay to waste.
              Don't even begin to tell me that the Gary Cherone or last Sammy stuff was "good" because it wasn't!!!! how about the porno shit....

              They are living off residual album sales and the pedals and sig guitars he is peddling. I resent him because I would selfishly expect a kick ass VH album at least once every two years and I am not getting it. Yet, way less talented bands are still kicking from the same era, insert Kiss, JP, etc.

              He is a weak human being with a great God given talent, an odd match that I can't comprehend.
              Mr. Patience.... ask for a free consultation.

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              • Originally posted by SeventhSon
                he's got six pack abs and he's thin. and not crack addict thin. healthy thin. maybe he's making a completely conscious decision to eliminate "image" distractions from his life. maybe he got fed up with finding the latest "hip" clothes. maybe he dresses that way because he can? maybe those boots are damn comfortable. who the fuck knows?
                now this takes rationalizing to a whole new level :ROTF:

                dude, it is well known that he has a drug and alcoholism problem. if you cannot see his current physique as the product of meth or crack abuse, then you've never seen a meth or crack addict.

                no dis to you, but really, you gotta see things as they are, not how we'd all want them to be.
                the guitar players look damaged - they've been outcasts all their lives

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                • My 2 cents,

                  Regardless of what he did in the past, he appears to need some kind of major kick in the ass because he does not seem healthy and he is not contributing to the potential he still could if he were healthy. Other rock acts find ways to be successful and popular when the times change. He could too if wanted to get his act together. Someone who is truly exceptional wouldn't rely on past success to rationalize less than exceptional performance today. They would say I have to do better because I know I can even if I don't have to.

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                  • Originally posted by skorb
                    now this takes rationalizing to a whole new level :ROTF:

                    dude, it is well known that he has a drug and alcoholism problem. if you cannot see his current physique as the product of meth or crack abuse, then you've never seen a meth or crack addict.

                    no dis to you, but really, you gotta see things as they are, not how we'd all want them to be.
                    nah dude, i know what they look like. i lived in downtown SF for 10 years...for a few months next to a crack house. did you see my disclaimer "who the fuck knows?" i was just presenting hypothetical counterarguments to yours and everyone else's apparent god-like omniscience about what "ails" ed.

                    i can look at the same picture as you and interpret it differently. if he was in such sad shape, why does he have a nice lookin *successful* chick by his side and some celebs hanging around him. maybe i'm naive, but i don't think the beverly hills elite would waste their time hanging around a bona-fide crack/meth addict regardless of what your past glories were. you look at the same picture and you see what you see, but the fact is that you don't know shit. you're just slinging interpretations about what you see in a photograph and supporting it with rumors.

                    the point is i really don't care. it's his fuckin life. i just find it sad that people pass judgement on his life a) having zero first hand knowledge about his life and b) without having one iota of a chance to have as nice a life as he has at 50. c) when he probably cares more about his next bowel movement than what the collective consciousness across all the internet boards thinks of him.

                    in the end, who are *you* to judge *him*? isn't that a bit arrogant to think that you know what's better for eddie than he does? what would you do if some stranger from the ghetto laid out an unsolicited master plan for "fixing" your life? gave you unsolicited fashion recommendations? you'd tell them to go pound sand and get a life.
                    Last edited by SeventhSon; 08-02-2006, 09:51 PM.
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

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                    • By that logic, who are "you" to apppoint yourself Defender of Lord Edward? If he doesn't care about our opinions then he likely doesn't care about yours. And Ed's demons have been making the news for years. I guess Val left him because she was just a bitch, huh? And I recall an interview in a guitar mag of Pat Smear, of Ed coming backstage at a Nirvana show, wanting to jam onstage and drinkenly referring to Pat as "the Raji".

                      "Who's the Raji?". "C'mon Kurt! Let me use the Raji's guitar!"

                      If I wanted to use someone's guitar, I'd ask HIM, not the bandleader as though "the Raji" was a slave. But I don't have that greatness about me.

                      Of course if you don't like Nirvana you can negate that with a Nirvana slam. But ED liked them, enough to want to jam with them at The Forum. I believe they turned hum down, only because he was too hammered to play.

                      And Smear said he idolized the guy before he treated him like a subhuman.
                      Ron is the MAN!!!!

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                      • i'm not defending ed. i'm making fun of everyone that chooses to throw stones in whatever glass houses they live in.
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

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                        • Eddie Rocks
                          I've fallen, Fallen through. If I'm Not With you, All I wanna Do Is Feel blue

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                          • Originally posted by SeventhSon
                            i'm not defending ed. i'm making fun of everyone that chooses to throw stones in whatever glass houses they live in.
                            My house is brick..
                            "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
                            Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

                            "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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                            • I like that "Raji" story...that is some funny shit.

                              Mike
                              Sleep. The sound doesn't collapse to riffs of early eyes either.

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                              • Originally posted by SeventhSon
                                i'm not defending ed. i'm making fun of everyone that chooses to throw stones in whatever glass houses they live in.
                                If you don't want to state and read opinions then what are you doing on an Internet message board in the first place?

                                It's like Bill said, picture your friend/brother/cousin going downhill when he seems to have everything going for him. Wouldn't it piss you off? Wouldn't you say something?

                                We may just be fans but we have the right to be upset at the guy flushing himself down a toilet, and to express that sentiment. You certainly have a right to express yourself too though.
                                Ron is the MAN!!!!

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