Pics of NEW EVH Amp...

[lerxstcat]

I thought he called you a bewbie.... whatever the fuck THAT is...:ROTF:

I understand the sympathetic aspect, but anyone who's dealt with someone flushing themselves down the toilet for years gets tired of it. That's why it TOOK 20 years for Val to leave, she bore the brunt for a long time. She would know better than any of us what it was like, and she bailed. I'd bet she tried everything, twice, to wise him up. Whole families go down behind this kind of crap, it's not just himself he's hurting.

As for Wolfie, well it'd be nice if he wasn't presented with the specter of his dad killing himself slowly with booze, drugs and cigs, wouldn't it? It'd be a shame if Ed kicks in his mid-50s when he could've lived a longer life, that will suck for Wolfie. Luckily he has one stable parent to rely on.

Eddie ROCKED. Past tense. His OLD music STILL rocks. He could still come back; I wish he would, but it doesn't look likely. What a waste that is.

[Racerx2k]

LOL. Yeah, I didn't catch that. I guess I'm a Boobie, then. LOL.

I couldn't have said it better, man. Some people just don't see the signs. God, I hope his son doesn't have to go through with that scenario. I don't wish that on anyone.............except maybe those "boobies", out there.

[JACKSONFREAK]

By newbie i was reffering to the board. I'm not the one bitchin about Eddie's conditoion here am I? im stickin up for the guy cus i know that life can dish out some crap to people and what it does to them. Everybody deals with things deiiferantly. Yeah he made his bed and he's nowlying in it. But does that mean we as his fans have to kick a man when he's down? We are his fans and because of what he did for guitar and his impact on the music we love. Here's a bit of perspective. Try thinking of Eddies situation as being someone you personally know going through this. Maybe a friend or a close relative. This person goes through some tough times and gets no support not even from you. He falls farther ad farther away from his former self because of the lack of concern given by others around him. All yo do is complain about it and not help your friend to get over it. Yes he has to want to help himself but with out any support its really tough. You'ld think Wolfgang would be someone posative in his life and want to help himself top be around for his son. The alcoholic mind doesnt work like that. They think about themselves and how to mke the pain go away so they drink. Spiraling into a depression and a life less meaningful. All im saying is can't we just stop trying to dig this poor guy an early grave and be true fans and stick behid him Sure he's made some bad choices. Think f where Hendrix and Rhoads would be now if they hadnt died already. They both would probably be in the same boat as eddie is now. Lets just stop the coplaining and maybe be supportive of him and maybe word will get around and he will pull out of it. We can hope right?. Negativity just negates more negativity. Try being posative and supportive of the guy instead. You dont have to agree with where he is in his life but by doing nothing but complaining baout it you're just making it worse. (and i mean all of Eddies fans not just the people here.) I see and hear this kind of negative stuff all over the place especaily at work. No wonder he's down now. I would be.
Gil

[hippietim]

here a fucktard, there a fucktard, everywhere a fucktard, fuck, fuck

it's like bulletin board special olympics here right now

[JACKSONFREAK]

Hey Tim bite me

[sevser]

Anymore about this EVH amp?

[Drsracing]

Eddie still rocks

[hippietim]

Denny Crane

[quiksilver]

[Drsracing]

Seahawks

[toejam]

here a fucktard, there a fucktard, everywhere a fucktard, fuck, fuck

it's like bulletin board special olympics here right now

And just like the Special Olympics... even if you win, you're still retarded! :ROTF:

[lerxstcat]

here a fucktard, there a fucktard, everywhere a fucktard, fuck, fuck

it's like bulletin board special olympics here right now

Hey, you bumped the thread, you must be enjoying it!

And JACKSONFREAK doesn't even realize that you're on the same side of the debate as him, Tim! Read the thread to at least know to say "Bite me" to! :ROTF:

I will say, I understand rhe sympathy view that Tim and Jacksonfreak and others have. What I will also say is, I have had personal friends and family members who have gone through similar substance abuse and mental illness problems. You're upset, concerned and go out of your way to support and help these people - for the first few years. Then you start to realize that they can be very manipulative and are not as helpless as they'd like you to believe. They can get control of themselves very quickly if faced with involuntary (committal) rehab. They can fool therapists to get the release papers signed and then back to the gutter.

So after awhile your sympathy is used up and you see a person who doesn't give a damn who they're hurting among their family and friends. This can be about drugs, alcohol, depression or gambling, I have seen all of those scenarios.

So when I see EVH, with all he has going for him, doing this to himself and more importantly to his family - his son - I don't have the same sympathy you might have if you've never been through it - or if you're someone who's doing it to your own family and friends, and therefore identifies with Ed. I'm not pointing any fingers, just saying those are the two prime categories I think would give Ed a total pass here. Either you haven't been through this with someone in your own life, or you're the one doing this shit yourself.

We would all like to see Ed pull out of this nosedive, can we at least agree on that?

[Cybersavior]

It pisses me off that he kept his hair.

[Racerx2k]

Hey, you bumped the thread, you must be enjoying it!

And JACKSONFREAK doesn't even realize that you're on the same side of the debate as him, Tim! Read the thread to at least know to say "Bite me" to! :ROTF:

I will say, I understand rhe sympathy view that Tim and Jacksonfreak and others have. What I will also say is, I have had personal friends and family members who have gone through similar substance abuse and mental illness problems. You're upset, concerned and go out of your way to support and help these people - for the first few years. Then you start to realize that they can be very manipulative and are not as helpless as they'd like you to believe. They can get control of themselves very quickly if faced with involuntary (committal) rehab. They can fool therapists to get the release papers signed and then back to the gutter.

So after awhile your sympathy is used up and you see a person who doesn't give a damn who they're hurting among their family and friends. This can be about drugs, alcohol, depression or gambling, I have seen all of those scenarios.

So when I see EVH, with all he has going for him, doing this to himself and more importantly to his family - his son - I don't have the same sympathy you might have if you've never been through it - or if you're someone who's doing it to your own family and friends, and therefore identifies with Ed. I'm not pointing any fingers, just saying those are the two prime categories I think would give Ed a total pass here. Either you haven't been through this with someone in your own life, or you're the one doing this shit yourself.

We would all like to see Ed pull out of this nosedive, can we at least agree on that?

Exactly, man. And I HAVE been through this sort of stuff, with family. I've lost loved ones, because of their own selfishness, and you are right, they WILL manipulate you, for their own wants. Hey, the man doesn't owe ME sh#*. However, there are many around him, his son especially, that he DOES owe.

[MBreinin]

Eddie rules.