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  • Originally posted by Racerx2k
    Exactly, man. And I HAVE been through this sort of stuff, with family. I've lost loved ones, because of their own selfishness, and you are right, they WILL manipulate you, for their own wants. Hey, the man doesn't owe ME sh#*. However, there are many around him, his son especially, that he DOES owe.
    I've been through this shit with friends and family members too. I've had people die on me most ungloriously. Big whoop. It is completely orthogonal to the discussion. Really.

    Why worry about his son? It's none of your business.

    How the hell could any of you possibly in any reasonable way know what is truly going on based on some random ass lame pictures, MP3s, and bulletin board quips on the Internet?

    Seriously, this is one the most retarded discussions in the history of the JCF. And believe me, there have been some doozies.

    Besides, what the hell does any of this have to do with Eddie being able to kick your ass on the guitar? :ROTF:
    I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

    - Newc

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    • You know what, this IS stupid, and I think I'm through. Wow, you just know it all, huh? The fact that you lack compassion is YOUR problem. You may want to see someone for it.
      Last edited by Racerx2k; 08-05-2006, 10:51 PM.
      I'm not Ron!

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      • Originally posted by Racerx2k
        Wow, you really ARE a jackass, aren't you? I worry about his son because he is an innocent person in this situation? What , do you think HE'S the one puttin the bottle to dad's mouth? What, so it's okay to idolize someone who plays great guitar (or PLAYED, in THIS case!), but it's wrong to be critical for that person steadily sliding, by his own hand. Take a sec, pull your head out of your ass, and let the pea in your head get some air, stupid!
        Dude, you have no idea what you are talking about. Really, you are babbling on like you know what's *really* going on. You don't. You have no idea as to the welfare of his child.

        But if you really want to do this, let's build the full list of musicians who have let us all down.

        First, let's start with the drug/alcohol dudes:
        Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Robbin Crosby, Bon Scott, Phil Lynnott, Eddie Van Halen, Tommy Bolin, Most everyone in Guns N' Roses, etc.

        Now how about the guys that are just mockerys of themselves:
        Yngwie, Everyone in Metallica, Yngwie, Eddie Van Halen (yep, he makes both lists based on the slamming here), Yngwie, Ozzy Osbourne, Axl Rose, Yngwie, etc.

        Now about the guys that are total posuers these days:
        Tommy Lee, Zakk Wylde, Everyone in Guns N' Roses (Axl makes all three!), Everyone in Metallica, etc.

        The list of people that have thrown away gifts, destroyed themselves with drugs and alcohol, become flaming assholes, etc. is GINORMOUS. We could go on for days like this. Just wait until we hit sports stars. And politicians. I suppose we'll need to add sex scandals to the list.

        Or should we just stick to Eddie because you saw some pictures of him on the Internet and now you feel morally superior to him and think you are qualified to judge him?
        I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

        - Newc

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        • Originally posted by Racerx2k
          You know what, this IS stupid, and I think I'm through. Wow, you just know it all, huh? The fact that you lack compassion is YOUR problem. You may want to see someone for it.
          Ha, nice rewrite of your post dude.

          Why would you say I lack compassion? You have no idea what you are talking about at all.

          I never said I know it all. Not once. All I've been pointing out is that you don't know anything about what is going on at all, yet you jump to all sorts of conclusions with no substance guiding your thought process.
          I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

          - Newc

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          • He does look pretty ripped in that video... but then again... most homeless drunks have similar physiques.

            I will say one thing... Eddy used to be a REALLY good guitar player and song writer. He also used to have nice teeth. I have no idea how his toenails used to look.

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            • Originally posted by hippietim
              Dude, you have no idea what you are talking about. Really, you are babbling on like you know what's *really* going on. You don't. You have no idea as to the welfare of his child.

              But if you really want to do this, let's build the full list of musicians who have let us all down.

              First, let's start with the drug/alcohol dudes:
              Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Robbin Crosby, Bon Scott, Phil Lynnott, Eddie Van Halen, Tommy Bolin, Most everyone in Guns N' Roses, etc.

              Now how about the guys that are just mockerys of themselves:
              Yngwie, Everyone in Metallica, Yngwie, Eddie Van Halen (yep, he makes both lists based on the slamming here), Yngwie, Ozzy Osbourne, Axl Rose, Yngwie, etc.

              Now about the guys that are total posuers these days:
              Tommy Lee, Zakk Wylde, Everyone in Guns N' Roses (Axl makes all three!), Everyone in Metallica, etc.

              The list of people that have thrown away gifts, destroyed themselves with drugs and alcohol, become flaming assholes, etc. is GINORMOUS. We could go on for days like this. Just wait until we hit sports stars. And politicians. I suppose we'll need to add sex scandals to the list.

              Or should we just stick to Eddie because you saw some pictures of him on the Internet and now you feel morally superior to him and think you are qualified to judge him?
              Hey Tim.. let me make just a few points regarding the above statement.


              First, let's start with the drug/alcohol dudes:
              Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Robbin Crosby, Bon Scott, Phil Lynnott, Eddie Van Halen, Tommy Bolin, Most everyone in Guns N' Roses, etc.
              I agree.. but except for Hendrix... none of these people were so visible when they were taking the downward ride as Eddie.


              Now how about the guys that are just mockerys of themselves:
              Yngwie, Everyone in Metallica, Yngwie, Eddie Van Halen (yep, he makes both lists based on the slamming here), Yngwie, Ozzy Osbourne, Axl Rose, Yngwie, etc.

              Malmsteen is as good as he ever was to this day. I wouldn't consider him a mockery of himself at all. He started as a neo-classical shredder playing a Fender strat through Marshalls. He still is. Same music... same great playing.

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              • I gotta go with tim here,

                So what Eddie's an Alcoholic. So are a lot of us, a lot of faimiley and freinds too

                I don't care what anyone here says. RIGHT NOW EVH CAN KICK ANYONE ON THE JCf'S ASS ON GUITAR

                He can take Loomis to school too. and Bill I've seen Loomis more times than I have Fingers, He's great, but not Eddie

                Everyone at some point in theire life has dressed or looked Weired. I've seen alot of your guys pics circa 1985 lol

                This is eddies I don't give a shit period, I still think in the next 2 years he will release something that will blow all of us out the fucking water

                Untill anyone here has sold 100 million records, and THEIR WORST ALBUM DEBUTED IN THE TOP FUCKING 10

                SHUT THE FUCK UP
                I've fallen, Fallen through. If I'm Not With you, All I wanna Do Is Feel blue

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                • Originally posted by Drsracing
                  I gotta go with tim here,

                  So what Eddie's an Alcoholic. So are a lot of us, a lot of faimiley and freinds too

                  I don't care what anyone here says. RIGHT NOW EVH CAN KICK ANYONE ON THE JCf'S ASS ON GUITAR

                  He can take Loomis to school too. and Bill I've seen Loomis more times than I have Fingers, He's great, but not Eddie

                  Everyone at some point in theire life has dressed or looked Weired. I've seen alot of your guys pics circa 1985 lol

                  This is eddies I don't give a shit period, I still think in the next 2 years he will release something that will blow all of us out the fucking water

                  Untill anyone here has sold 100 million records, and THEIR WORST ALBUM DEBUTED IN THE TOP FUCKING 10

                  SHUT THE FUCK UP
                  Cool post. Of course I have to post one little comment!
                  Eddie is one of those players that I would never want a guitarmageddon with but based on that clip... AND THAT CLIP ALONE.... there is no fukking way he would kick my ass on guitar.
                  You mention that this is Eddies "I don't give a shit period".
                  I agree... TOTALLY. Based on that clip... AND THAT CLIP ALONE... he REALLY doesn't give a shit about playing guitar.
                  Not to get too technical here but I thought this thread was a response to the clip posted.
                  Based on that clip... AND THAT CLIP ALONE... Eddy sounds like shit and looks like a homeless person.

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                  • Oh yea... and another thing. I love Van Halen. Mainly the old stuff. I could care fukking less if Eddie ever straightens his act out because IMHO he hasn't written a good song in the last 15 years at least. He also could never seem to get his act together regarding DLR who IMHO again... was a HUGE reason that Van Halen was so successful.

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                    • I would kill to be able to play as "poorly" as Eddie right now.

                      Mike
                      Sleep. The sound doesn't collapse to riffs of early eyes either.

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                      • Exactly John.

                        The last time he really tried was VH3, sure it debuted in the top 10, sold a few mil but he got so much shit for it, that was basically his album.

                        Right now, showing up at a few places, Jamin' or playing porno music makes him content.

                        BUT

                        like every musician he still has that burn inside him, and it will grow till he has to record the Magic that only Eddie can
                        I've fallen, Fallen through. If I'm Not With you, All I wanna Do Is Feel blue

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                        • Originally posted by jgcable
                          Oh yea... and another thing. I love Van Halen. Mainly the old stuff. I could care fukking less if Eddie ever straightens his act out because IMHO he hasn't written a good song in the last 15 years at least. He also could never seem to get his act together regarding DLR who IMHO again... was a HUGE reason that Van Halen was so successful.
                          BUT AGIAN DLR CAN"T GET ANYTHING STRIGHT EITHER

                          If you've seen hiom live in the pat 6 years, He's cookoo for cocco Puffs
                          I've fallen, Fallen through. If I'm Not With you, All I wanna Do Is Feel blue

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                          • Originally posted by Drsracing
                            BUT AGIAN DLR CAN"T GET ANYTHING STRIGHT EITHER

                            If you've seen hiom live in the pat 6 years, He's cookoo for cocco Puffs
                            He still sings pretty good though. I always liked Dave. Even when he was a total asshole.

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                            • Originally posted by Drsracing
                              BUT AGIAN DLR CAN"T GET ANYTHING STRIGHT EITHER

                              If you've seen hiom live in the pat 6 years, He's cookoo for cocco Puffs
                              Yeah, Roth is insane. I also disagree with the 15 year statement. Balance had some great tunes and that was "only" 11 years ago!

                              Mike
                              Sleep. The sound doesn't collapse to riffs of early eyes either.

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                              • Originally posted by Drsracing
                                Exactly John.

                                The last time he really tried was VH3, sure it debuted in the top 10, sold a few mil but he got so much shit for it, that was basically his album.

                                Right now, showing up at a few places, Jamin' or playing porno music makes him content.

                                BUT

                                like every musician he still has that burn inside him, and it will grow till he has to record the Magic that only Eddie can
                                I agree. There is a massive amount of talent trapped in that nicotine and alcohol saturated body. Maybe one day we will see it again. Until then.. we have his early stuff to listen to. Thank God for that.

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