Mesa Triaxis VS MP1 VS Mesa Studio Preamp

[horns666]

I'm playing bass in the VH band..I was Michael Anthony..can ya hear me sing!!

Nate grab it for $150, hell yes!!

[Dreamland_Rebel]

when i saw helloween live (one of the best shows i've ever seen)
they were using the mesa triaxis with marshall 9100 power amps. they sounded amazing!

[guitar08man]

Yes..All JMP-1

Isn't THAT what your lookin' for??!!

a triaxis or MP-1 won't give you THAT!!

Bill

Kinda, im really diggin the Tone off of "Images and Words" and Strypers "against the law" albums right now. And GodofRythym tells me that those are mesa studio pre's...

But if the marshall can get into that tiggity-tight rythym shiat then im down.

[Final Sacrifice]

I snatched a perfect condition jmp1 at a local store too for $150. Sold for either $400 or $450 a week later on ebay.

[Tune_Up]

Kinda, im really diggin the Tone off of "Images and Words" and Strypers "against the law" albums right now. And GodofRythym tells me that those are mesa studio pre's...

But if the marshall can get into that tiggity-tight rythym shiat then im down.

Images and Words is all Triaxis preamp and Against The Law is a Mesa MKIIC+ head.

[guitar08man]

Images and Words is all Triaxis preamp and Against The Law is a Mesa MKIIC+ head.

ah my bad, i suck at getting ideas across.

What i meant to type was i would get that sound with the Mesa studio pre.

I should really start reading my posts before i post them, lol.

[GodOfRhythm]

Images and Words is all Triaxis preamp and Against The Law is a Mesa MKIIC+ head.

First of all, I did not say those were Studio Pre's. I said Quads were used on those, which are not studios, eventhough studios are considered to be even that little stip purer and 'better' (as in 'warmer') than a Quad. Though if you make use of the push/pull extras on the Quad, I highly doubt a lot of people could even hear an audible difference between the two.

SECONDLY. There is no way in HELL it's a "all' triaxis, in fact, it's far from it actually. Eventhough that's probably one of the biggest discussions on tone there are. JP's used a Quad a lot in his rack in the earlier days. He had a Triaxis liverig as well for the I&W tour and it was an integral part of his liverig for a long time, till upto the SFAM tour or so, I believe. Awake was double doubletracked (4 rhythm tracks) with IIC+ and Dual Rectifier had a couple of spots with a Triaxis and he used a Blue Angel for a couple of bluesier licks as well. Acos was a mix of the above and again a zoom for the cleans. SFAM had a lot of stuff, 6DOIT was IIC+ and a rectifier for TGP's heavier riffs, I believe. ToT was foremost Roadking, as was Octavarium.

I&W was, from all I've gathered, a Quad with 2:95 simul and a zoom 9002 for most of the clean sounds, with overdubs here and there from a Marshall Combo he borrowed from David Prater (producer).

But as in all these things, I am sure he used a bit of everything on every album. Triaxis, Formula pre, Mk IV's etc on the earlier albums for sure, as well. So it's all an eclectic mix.

If it's any consilation(sp?), Patrick, the first rackpreamp JP bought was a studio preamp and he loved it.

And Michael Sweet himself said the Quad was the main source of their tones on pretty much all of their stuff.

All of that being said, most people won't be able to tell the difference between a Quad and a IIC or a IIC+ or even a Mark III. A lot of it depends on the poweramp I'd say, too. A TriAxis comes scarily close as well, but it has subtle nuances and differences (to me it sounds more sterile). I mean you could try anything, to be honest. All I can tell you is what I know and secondly: what I love and I love Mark series amps. (could ya tell? )

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And again, trust me, it nails the sound. But you won't believe me probably :p, With a Quad you ARE getting a IIC and a III in one convenient little box, with the little differences as far as push/pulls are concerned. Possibilities are mindblowing and the sound is to die for, that's all I can say. Crossbleeding two modes is possible too, by activating both channels simultaneously on a footswitch, which adds to the versatility and was called 'the hidden treasure' of the quad by MB.

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If you want another example of all Quad sounds, listen to Metallica's The Shortest Straw. That was all Quad, in fact Rasmussen posted the original settings and notes up. It was done on Ld1 believe it or not, the least gainy of the lead channels.

Also there is no chance in holy hell a JMP-1 would get you that kind of tone. Not saying it's good or bad or anything, but that is not 'its' sound. It is the typical Boogiesound.

[Endrik]

Patrick, if you really dig that fat, thick and smooth "jazzy" Boogie trademark tone, then get a Mesa Boogie, other amps don't sound like it at all. MP-1 and JMP-1 are awsome but they have totally different tone character.

[horns666]

Kinda, im really diggin the Tone off of "Images and Words" and Strypers "against the law" albums right now. And GodofRythym tells me that those are mesa studio pre's...

But if the marshall can get into that tiggity-tight rythym shiat then im down.

My friend has a Triaxis he runs with a Stategy 400, prettt cool..

My Boy Jef Loomis..He used a Triaxis earlier with Nevermore..I believe he used it when I met the guys back in '96

I play Black/Death/Thrash with my JMP_1..alot of guys here heard and liked it..so I assume alot of the "heavyness and tone" is in your hands..

I also love Criss oliva's and ED's classic tone and it gives me that too..so it can cover alot of sonic ground..

It also does Death/Eidolon big time..

I played Triaxis, Voodovalves, MP-1..and you know what I like.

all good preamps..they all have their pwn value and place..

[GodOfRhythm]

I'd personally say, if you want the marshall sound anyways, you're much better off with a Mesa Boogie pre into some el34ish poweramp, for the el34 crunch. Or perhaps the Brunetti Mille, which is great for what I've heard and in the same pricerange ($500's there abouts), the Brunetti '59 was a great amp and got to play it a lot. Tim could probably give you the low down on the Mille.

I have yet to play a Marshall with controls that don't feel like you could turn 'em all day without affecting your tone in the slightest. (Not having extensively played any old plexis).

[charvelguy]

that kinda defines a Marshalls tone circuit.... but..they do effect tone.. just not as drastically as other amps like a Mesa or a push pull circuit on a Mesa. If the heads natural tone is dialed in..it'll sound good.. and you'll notice when you tweak certain pots, the is a tonal change... they're just not overly drastic.