Vetta emergency!! What in the world???

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[horns666]

I have to admit... that thing certainly looks better. It doesn't sound better.. but it does look nice.
I'll invite ANY tube amp on the planet to go toe to toe live with my Vetta.
How's that for a challenge. Volume... tone.... "realness"... anything.
VETTA WINS!!! (providing you have a degree in programming!!!!)

You sure about that John..

You and I with our amps, together in a room..me with my Uber and You with your Vetta..

that would be interesting and fun!!!

[RacerX]

Walls would be gone

[horns666]

Walls would be gone

yes Ron, and someone may even lose a ball..but that's all part of the fun.

That would be fun, I would love to do that!!!

Get a bashing drummer in there too and some cool music would be made!!

[Endrik]

I think modelers are cool but could anyone name a badass sounding album wich has been recorded with Line 6. Just one album wich tone can rock my socks off.

Also can anyone mention a band who is using Line 6 for stadium concerts (100000 head crowd)

[jgcable]

I think modelers are cool but could anyone name a badass sounding album wich has been recorded with Line 6. Just one album wich tone can rock my socks off.

Also can anyone mention a band who is using Line 6 for stadium concerts (100000 head crowd)

I can't think of any band using a Vetta live but I would bet that most if not all bands use some kind of modeling amp in the studio. I have never been in a studio that didn't have several. I also know many engineers and they all use software amps. Many studios use the system that John Petrucci uses. I think its called Pro Tools or something like that.
My challenge stands. I owne alot of what would be considered high end high gain amps and the Vetta kills them all.
The only amp I ever owned that was as loud and ballsy as the Vetta was a newer version Triple Rectifier.
Regarding live.. if I was playing in a 100,000 seat arena and I had a crew of sound guys, engineers and guitar techs I would probably use all boutique tube amps because I wouldn't have to worry about changing channels, sounds or levels. I would leave it all to them. Even the wah.
I don't have that luxury so Vetta is the answer for me.

[horns666]

Mike Romeo was using a Vetta ..I thought it sounded cool..Tho he wasn't too happy with it, per his conversation with C-John..

His tone sounded pretty crisp and clear IMO..at least I could actually hear him..which is always a good thing.

He was fine in the Mix , he sounded true to form to the record..no complaints as a Symphony X fan..it was a great show.

[horns666]

John only thing is YOU comparing the Vetta to any other amp is a tad unfair..this is why.

You invested so much time into it ..getting to know it and dialing in for years, getting all intimate with it, just short of dry humping.. ..like I do with my Uber..

So the only "fair" fight or comparison would be you and a dude like me that really knows his amp..and I KNOW my amp..in the same room.

Not you trying both amps..nah nah nah..

That is like when I owned both the Recto and a 5150..I was completely convinced that the Recto was a completely useless buzz box..which in hindsight I may have been wrong..since many players better than I use the shit out of them and sound fantastic..

[Guitardude86]

I think modelers are cool but could anyone name a badass sounding album wich has been recorded with Line 6. Just one album wich tone can rock my socks off.

Also can anyone mention a band who is using Line 6 for stadium concerts (100000 head crowd)

I remember reading on the Annihilator forum Jeff Waters was psyched as hell about getting one, he thought it sounded (quote): WICKED! I'm not sure if he's used a Vetta on any albums yet, but I'm sure you can find out about that if you do a bit of digging.

[danastas]

Joe Satriani records using a modeller. I saw that in a recent interview.

[Rupe]

OK John, when can we get your Vetta and my Cheiftain in the same room? You'll leave a changed man

[hammer84]

I'm not going to jump to the conclusion that you've never owned a real tube amp, but this reply kind of makes it look that way.

You Vetta guys talk like we burn through tubes like they're guitar strings or something. It's not like that. I've had my Splawn for well over a year and only changed the tubes one time, and that's because I wanted to try a different brand. Preamp tubes can last a lifetime.

To answer your question - it's real easy to figure out which tube died - that would be the one that isn't glowing. As for other repairs - you can't compare an OS / software issue with a malfunction in a tube amp. There is no tube amp equivalent. Unless a part inside the amp is actually broken or blown, it's going to work. That said, if a tube amp does go down and it can't be quickly diagnosed as a bad tube, any decent amp tech in just about any decent-sized city or town can fix it right there in his shop.

Finally - to the guy who said a tube amp can only get about three sounds - heh. OK.

You my friend are totally , completely and utterly wrong with your typical tube snob response ( you must never had owned a tube amp, you Vetta guys ).

I have owned so many tube amps since I started playing back in '83 I can't keep count.

" Pick the tube that is not glowing", no sh*t !! That is almost as easy as " see if is plugged in " I have seen so many amps not work at the sound check thru the years for so many many different reasons. You don't burn thru tubes like strings but tubes get wacked and amps dropped and sh*t somes loose. There are a lot more parts in a tube amp to fail than a Vetta.

You will never hear me say that modlerXXXX is better that tubeYYY. Except when reffering to what works for me. I just point out the differences. I could care less what everyone else is using as long as I sound good

[petedz]

I think Thomas Youngblood from Kamelot does everything with Line6 stuff. He sounds pretty good to me.

[Adam]

You my friend are totally , completely and utterly wrong with your typical tube snob response ( you must never had owned a tube amp, you Vetta guys ).

I have owned so many tube amps since I started playing back in '83 I can't keep count.

I think perhaps you're seeing me as much more invested in this debate than I actually am. Not to say I don't take your responses seriously - I'm just not so emotionally tied to it.

I do try to be preemptive when it comes to foot-in-mouth avoidance, which is why I usually pepper my assumptions and general statements with qualifiers such as "seems like," "could be," "in my opinion," etc. I merely stated that, by your statements, it seemed to me like you've never really owned or operated a high quality tube amp over an extended length of time. Note that I say "high quality," because that's what it all comes down to, isn't it?

Now I don't know exactly how many tube amps you've had over the years, what they were, or how well they were made, but I do know that a well-made amp is a well-made amp, and one made from high-quality components is no more likely to fail than another, all other things being equal.

I also think you would do well not to cast assumptions and labels about so freely, especially when attempting to chastise someone else for doing the same.

" Pick the tube that is not glowing", no sh*t !! That is almost as easy as " see if is plugged in " I have seen so many amps not work at the sound check thru the years for so many many different reasons. You don't burn thru tubes like strings but tubes get wacked and amps dropped and sh*t somes loose. There are a lot more parts in a tube amp to fail than a Vetta.

Granted I've only been gigging since about '99 (playing since '94), but in that time I have seen more SS and digital rigs take a shit on stage than I have tube amps. In the events that a tube amp went down, rarely was it not back up and running in a matter of minutes because the guitarist replaced a fuse or had spare tubes. Almost every time a digital or solid-state amp went down, it was "Dude, our guitar player needs to borrow an amp for our set. Can you help us out?"

Any amp can fail - I would never say that a Vetta is more likely to fail than a VHT or Splawn - but just because a Vetta doesn't have tubes, it doesn't mean that there a fewer components that can go wrong with it. Just the fact that it runs on software adds a whole new layer to that equation. If it works for you, that's great.

I can honestly say that I would take a Vetta over a number of all-tube amps, just like I can say there are a number of all-tube amps that I would take over the Vetta.

I relate pretty well to your last statement:

You will never hear me say that modlerXXXX is better that tubeYYY. Except when reffering to what works for me. I just point out the differences. I could care less what everyone else is using as long as I sound good

[horns666]

John if I like your Vetta ..do ya mind if I dry hump it..

it's just my way of showing my approval..

Hey Jimi Humped his Marshalls live..he loved them that much!!