PA systems?

[thetruthguy]

Okay, suppose someone wanted to do the one-man-band thing with a bass/drum backing track, live guitar, and live singing. And suppose this person wanted to use a 2x12 100 watt tube amp (Carvin MTS 3212) along with a decent PA to play in places to no more than 50 to 100 people (more than likely, 3 people, but just in case). What would be a good PA system for this person to use. I've been looking at some of Carvin's gear (such as the XP880 with two 15" speakers and a monitor or two), but I'm not sure what to get. AMS has hoards of Behringer stuff, but I'm not too sure about that, either. And then there's Fender's Passport system. Am I going in the wrong direction? Probably, which is why I come to my fellow gurus for advice.

Please, don't yell at me too loudly at the one-man-band suggestion. I do have a singer, but drummers and bass players are so hard to come by.

--Dan

[nor]

YOU NEED
Powered speakers (Mackie 450), 12 ch mixer w/effects - DONE. Buy an extra one if ya want a monitor.

MIGHT NEED
Some cheap powered Subs if ya need 'em (you prolly don't, and you can add em later if you do).

Pod or similar modeler.

Headset mic (so you can keep singing while trying to reboot the laptop, lol...)

DONT NEED
Racks of amps

Anything you don't wanna pick up by yourself four times for every gig.

[El_Kabong]

I agree with nor, but I would add some speaker stands and leave the tube guitar amp at home for this proposed gig.

[bloodandtears]

+1 nor..... this is exactly what i do... plus light show, plus mackie subs ;-) but i have been doing this for years.. less politics in duos and more work...

[thetruthguy]

Is this what you're talking about? http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-MAC-SRM450.html

So, I get 3 of these? One for monitor, two for audience?

And then I need a mixer, huh? Any suggestions?

And perhaps a subwoofer like this: http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-PEV-PV118.html

And going through a modeler directly into the PA would be better than playing through and amp?

Hmmm ...

[nor]

Actually... 2 of the 450's...

Something like this for monitor:

http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-GAA-PA5X140.html

Mixer: (the speakers are powered, so your mixer doesn't need to be)

http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-YAM-MG82FX.html

http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-MAC-DFX6.html

http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-MAC-DFX12.html

We use those Yamahas all the time (got 12 on the shelf) for small stuff. I'm not familiar with the Mackie DFX series, but use the VLX a lot.

Subs: Don't buy 'em until you are SURE you need 'em.

Modelers: It's waaaay easier to mix without stage volume to worry about. If your tube amp has a decent recording/direct output AND doesn't require a load (speaker plugged in) to operate - that might work for ya. However, modellers are midi ready and tend to be easier to integrate into the type of setup you are considering.

NOTE:
Behringer = yuck (IMO)

[yard dawg]

Keep it simple as possible and small. You'll need a sound engineer if it gets to complicated. Small is the best because you'll need the controls nearby. Mackie makes great gear and so does Carvin ( my choice ) . If possible get a smaller tube amp. You can always mic it but I doubt you'll need to in a small club of 50 people. You wont need huge speakers either. Get sone small ones and some stands for them. You can get by with one monitor but will probably want 2. Remeber that the cables and mics will be a big expense when budgeting this system . Keep it simple as possible

[thetruthguy]

Thanks all.

Yard Dawg, I've been posting over at the Carvin forum, too. Since you prefer them, tell me what you think of this: http://www.carvin.com/carvinbbs/viewtopic.php?t=7571 ... final suggestions are towards the end of the thread.