Buying Chinese amps - a question of principle.

[Spivonious]

Even if the modules were assembled in the U.S. I have no doubts that the components on the circuit boards were all made in China. Honestly I don't see a problem with Chinese-made products. China's economy is the fastest growing economy in the world right now. Their quality levels have gone way up in the past decade.

[lerxstcat]

I'm not sure what you were trying to say there but I have no way of verifying mine - I no longer own it. As I said, I didn't ever look to see where mine was made, just that the modules all said Made in USA and I only now that because they were pretty big stickers relative to the size of the modules. At this point I would guess my RM100 was also made in China.

Well, Pete stated the Chassis had China on it to his memory, and you saw fit to dispute that even though you now say you never looked at the chassis. I have not known you to admit you were wrong in the past so yeah, I'm surprised to see you do so, even conditionally, now. Good for you!

[hippietim]

Well, Pete stated the Chassis had China on it to his memory, and you saw fit to dispute that even though you now say you never looked at the chassis. I have not known you to admit you were wrong in the past so yeah, I'm surprised to see you do so, even conditionally, now. Good for you!

ya know, you can kiss my ass.

[Twisteramps]

C'mon guys, let's fight the Chinese, not each other!

Tim, what did you not like about your RM100? Not to do a huge subject change, I'm just curious. I liked mine plenty until I started putting stuff in the loop.

Pete

[hippietim]

C'mon guys, let's fight the Chinese, not each other!

Tim, what did you not like about your RM100? Not to do a huge subject change, I'm just curious. I liked mine plenty until I started putting stuff in the loop.

Pete

The RM100 was really good. I didn't have any issues with the loop for what I was doing. But I ended up with an assload of pedals and a digital reverb in the loop and all sorts of shit like that. Then I looked at my big rack and it was looking much simpler. I ended up getting a G-System on the JCF and went with a small rack instead because a ton of cables back and forth between the pedalboard and amp was not appealing at all and I didn't want to have a rack and the RM100. So I moved the RM100. It ended up being a good move tonewise because I moved to a CAE 3+ preamp and Boogie 2:100 power amp which is better than the RM stuff (albeit less versatile).

[bibz]

Works both ways, ever since dad saved up and splurged and a brand new usa strat that was sent with the wrong colour and a shitty nut he's been big into jap stuff

That said, people would boycott jap stuff in the day for similar reasons. I rekon its a case of the unknown being all dodgey, with a chunk of those fucking ebay auctions. If not for china/cheap labor, america and the rest of us wouldn't be in the position we are. I'm dead against chinese guitars, but when it comes to anything with electronics theres no garuntee. Whilst not being chinese specifically, theres a good chance most of the circuitry is taiwanese (home of most if not all the pc memory at one point? Amongst other componentry) so it becomes a moot point imo. Its just not viable specifically not financially viable, to live morally or with stern ethic. Ask your vice president

[iced_earth]

I know what you mean about your questions of principles. I know I can't possibly live without Chinese made products, but I choose my battles and guitar gear happens to be one of them.

That being said, here is my firsthand experience with China. In the factory I visited (Industrial Machinery), workers live at the factory and work 28 out of 30 days per month. The standard workday is as follows: 7:30 - 11:00, 12:30-16:30, 19:00 - 22:00. That is the normal workday, not including overtime. All that for a couple hundred US dollars per month. I do know that the labor market is getting a little tighter in China as the factory workers are starting to get tired of the factory owners making piles of money off of their labor, so the workers are asking for higher wages. Cheaper labor is getting a littler harder to find in China and China is certainly not the last untapped cheap labor market.

[RacerX]

"How does the Communist Party exert control over 1.3 billion Chinese? "

Watch the PBS documentary China From The Inside starting tonight!

http://www.pbs.org/kqed/chinainside/

There's a preview vid at that link too.

[strat2tele1]

Its call industrialization...and people complain when US made products are overpriced which is all union related.

[lerxstcat]

ya know, you can kiss my ass.

Yet you didn't dispute what I said. I gave you credit for admitting you were wrong, that's more than you seem to be able to do.

I don't know what got up your ass, you used to be a mellow guy. Maybe you should change your name to ShortFuseTim.

[hippietim]

Yet you didn't dispute what I said. I gave you credit for admitting you were wrong, that's more than you seem to be able to do.

I don't know what got up your ass, you used to be a mellow guy. Maybe you should change your name to ShortFuseTim.

Still, you can kiss my ass.

[Racerx2k]

Tim doesn't admit he's wrong.........ever. hehe.

[lerxstcat]

Still, you can kiss my ass.

Lick me luv pump, chump!

[hippietim]

Tim doesn't admit he's wrong.........ever. hehe.

Dude, Willy just called looking for you. He said the other Oompa Loompas are lonely without you.

[Racerx2k]

Dude, Willy just called looking for you. He said the other Oompa Loompas are lonely without you.

Dude, cart your lanky ass down to the corner store and buy yourself a REAL set of balls.