Phase Pedal Opinions wanted.

[Bryan]

I just got rid of my EH Small Stone pedal and I want a replacement. I liked the sound of the EH but it lowered my volume too much when engaged. So I need some suggestions for a replacement.

Here are some I'm interested in...

MXR Phase 90
MXR EVH Phase 90
EH Nano Small Stone

Other than that I don't really know what's out there so help me out.

[thenine]

I have the EVH and it is cool. There is no level control however. I think ity lowers my vol a bit too. Not much, but a bit. I use a bad monley to raise it back up if needed. Anyhow, I have been very happy with the EVH. Blue LED too!


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[jgcable]

I have never owned a phase pedal that didn't lower and thin out my tone. That is why I don't use phase.

[hippietim]

the evh is great. i really like mine.

[jgcable]

the evh is great. i really like mine.

Tim, could it be the order in which the Phase is placed??
Do you put your phase in front of the amp or in the loop?

[hippietim]

phase shifters have to go in front of the amp - at least stomp boxes. some of the rack ones are fair after the preamp. same goes with univibe/rotary pedals.

unless you are going for a buzzy, thin, harsh, brittle tone these effects need to go before any sort of gain.

the other trick is finding phasers that don't screw up your level in the mix. i don't think it's necessarily just about volume per se. you need to hear how your tone works in the mix with the band. some pedals just don't work for me - the boss phasers have never been good for me. the maxon phaser that's the larger multi-stage phaser is really great. the ultimate phaser i had was the mooger fooger - it was incredible. it was just too big for my board and i pretty much just set it to the VH I phaser sound anyhow.

[markD]

i have the digitech mega-phase (or whatever it is called) and the MXR EVH phase 90.

i ONLY use the MXR. it is killer. my volume stays the same and my tone remains beefy.

i put it first in my chain (which is small)...

it goes:

guitar -> MXR -> VOX wah -> amp

[Bryan]

So far the feedback has been great on the Phase 90 and the EVH phase.

Does anybody have any experience with the Nano Small Stone?

[MSGfan]

I own an MXR script logo Phase 90, the EVH doen't even come close to it!
A close second and way more affordable pedal would be an old Ross Phase shifter. I have a made in Taiwan, two knob orange colored model that sounds great and it was less than $75.! The older American made ones that are identical to this one will run you only about $100.+ on Ebay.

[Chad]

Retro-Sonic Phaser would be a good fit. Those take all of the good things about the Phase 90 and add desired modern features......true bypass, level control, LED light, AC power jack, etc. However, I had one and had to send it back because it didn't work properly....I couldn't get the slow EVH sweep. Aside from that, it sounded okay until I compared it to my vintage MXR block logo Phase 90. The vintage one sounds so much thicker and better. I converted it to true bypass. Have used it in front and in the loop of many amps successfully.

[roodyrocker]

Bryan, I went through the same thing you did. I quickly ditched the EH Small Stone phaser. Replaced it with a Retro-Sonic which is awesome. As Tim said, I placed it in front of the amp. It sounds like crap through the loop but great up front!

Rudy

https://www.wickedrocks.com

[Twisteramps]

I had a Phase 90 that sounded fine in the loop... it was a mid 90s one I think. Actually BOOSTED the volume a little bit, which was fine by me!

Pete

[Bryan]

Here's another one I ran across.

What's the difference between the "custom shop" script logo Phase 90, the regualr Phase 90, and the EVH Phase 90?

Is it like this...

Phase 90 - new phase sound
EVH - new and vintage phase sound
"custom script" Phase 90 - vintage phase sound

or is the CS script just the EVH without the stripes and slightly cheaper?