Apologies to EMG fans

[donvandam]

I honestly cannot tell the difference between the EMGz in my schecter and the passive pickups in my charvel

[slayer]

I never liked EMG pickups, never liked the idea of active pickups - too complicated etc. Until today, when for the first time I actually, well, tried them!

http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2007/Godin-Redline-1.html

with this amp:

http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=2160500400

Very nice!!!

Not my favorite headstock, but....... I love 1 hum guitars, 1 volume knob and 24.75 scale, so, I might try one for a good price As for the Amp, there is something about it I really like and could use a nice 1x12 combo. How is the gain on that amp? What kinda voicing does it have? Congrats on your new stuff Jack.

[clifffclaven]

I'm ok with EMGs in the right guitar. They really can work.

But when I see EMGs in a Les Paul I just cringe. That's like putting Yosemite Sam mudflaps on a Mercedes.

? why? emgs sound great in a les paul. I have a 81/89 set in two of mine.

[VanOsbourne]

Yea.. you can tell the difference between a Les Paul and a Strat but its pretty hard to tell the difference between a Charvel Model 2 and an Ibanez RG.

Those two guitars would sound about the same with a Dimarzio Distortion as well.

[GryphonGuitar]

I have never ever liked EMGs. In all honesty I have only ever tried 81s, but I found the tone too glassy and ceramic sounding, I thought they sounded very very loud but with very little bottom end and testes... Sort of like Jewel singing into a microphone, she may be louder than Henry Rollins unplugged, but he's just got more... testes.

In my opinion, that is.

[RobRR]

Ah, welcome to the dark side tanpsi!

[paulbag]

I have 81's in all my guitars and although they have a distinct tone that I like (mostly the response I like)...

They sound different just like any other pick up from guitar to guitar.

+1...I have swapped passives from all my guitars except one, I've got a Duncan Custom in my KE1...which will probably be getting an EMG 81 installed and and detuned to drop C. I prefer 81's in the bridge personally, and all my guitars sound different. I'll be picking up my Death Kelly next weekend, it's a one hum and has a Duncan. Guess whats going in it?

[Cleveland Metal]

I hate em-seems like you can put them on a economy 2by4 stud and they bwould sound like every other guitar. Like passives-sorry emg guys

Then your amp is likely to blame. I didn't notice the timbre differences as much with a cheaper amps (5150, MESA, Marshalls, Voodu Valve, Sanasamp). My CAE3+se really shows that different guitars with the same EMG81 in them sound quite differently...

Thats odd because I definitely hear a difference between my different guitars with EMG 81s in them. Its just varying degrees of how much ass they kick though, starting at "lots" and going towards "almost too much."

Yep... Very true.

its pretty hard to tell the difference between a Charvel Model 2 and an Ibanez RG.

My USA Fusion and my Charvel 475 (very similar guitars I'd say really) are my Main axes and they are quite different sounding with EMGs, with the 475 being much better sounding for my uses. The Fusion is noticeably muddy sounding. And my Gibson SG, Charvel Model 4 and USA BC Rich are all noticeably different too, with the SG and BC Rich being the best sounding of all my guitars. I attribute that to the Mahogany construction of the SG and the awesome forged Kahler/floyd bridge in the Rich

I have 81's in all my guitars and although they have a distinct tone that I like (mostly the response I like)...

They sound different just like any other pick up from guitar to guitar.

Just a pup with an electrically chargerd magnet to get the output, instead of winding the hell out of them and in turn giving them a ass load of mids.

Fast attack...If thats what you like

Yep...

[jrnic]

I hate em-seems like you can put them on a economy 2by4 stud and they bwould sound like every other guitar. Like passives-sorry emg guys

Not true! I have used EMG's for many years and have found that they sound different in different guitars. There are some of my guitars that they sound killer in including my Charvel Model 2 and a Jackson Dinky, and others that Dimarzio Super D's sound better. They are not all the same. It does have a lot to do with the body wood and body thickness from what I have experienced.

For example, I put them (81 and 85) in an all mahogony bodied Gibson Les Paul and they sounded bad, but I took them out of the LP and put them in an SG and they were much better. Go figure, both guitars made of the same wood too!

Also theres a difference between 9v and 18v too. (I have the 18v mod in my Charvel Mod 2 (81) and it sustains for days......I have the regular 9v EMG's in a Dinky and they sound good but I would love to try the 18v mod in it too if I can just figure out a way to get a second battery in that already cramped control cavity.)

[tanpsi]

How is the gain on that amp? What kinda voicing does it have?

With both cascading gains all the way up it's very high gain but it's still "crisp" unlike some Boogies I tried.

When you mean voicing do you mean what other amp it sounds like? I haven't tried many amps I would say the high gain sounds like a Marshall TSL more than a Boogie Recto

The clean channel is designed to sound like 2 old Fenders, the Bassman setting gave a fantastic clean tone

[hippietim]

:ROTF: :ROTF: :ROTF: Yeppers! I can tell you live near Raleigh. You have them saying's like my relatives in Garner and Goldsboro

My singer lives down that way

[hippietim]

? why? emgs sound great in a les paul. I have a 81/89 set in two of mine.

If you are happy, then that's all that matters. I've never played an EMG loaded Les Paul that sounded good to me. A Les Paul with good pickups is a creamy, organic, rich tone. That has not been my experience with EMGs in a Les Paul.

[siggy14]

I would never put mesa in as a cheap amp. Also mesa's are very picky when it comes to pickups, it either likes a pickup or it doesnt. But cheap, man what crack are you smoking? I have never played our touched a CAE3+SE so i cant really comment on that.

Then your amp is likely to blame. I didn't notice the timbre differences as much with a cheaper amps (5150, MESA, Marshalls, Voodu Valve, Sanasamp). My CAE3+se really shows that different guitars with the same EMG81 in them sound quite differently...



Yep... Very true.



My USA Fusion and my Charvel 475 (very similar guitars I'd say really) are my Main axes and they are quite different sounding with EMGs, with the 475 being much better sounding for my uses. The Fusion is noticeably muddy sounding. And my Gibson SG, Charvel Model 4 and USA BC Rich are all noticeably different too, with the SG and BC Rich being the best sounding of all my guitars. I attribute that to the Mahogany construction of the SG and the awesome forged Kahler/floyd bridge in the Rich



Yep...

[Cleveland Metal]

Didn't say cheap, said "cheaper". Maybe work on that "reading comprehension" thing before you get calling me a crackhead. All that I said, and you focus on that... jeeeez...

And yes, something you shouldn't comment about. At least I've played, touched, and gasp... owned MESA's...

[hippietim]

Didn't say cheap, said "cheaper". Maybe work on that "reading comprehension" thing before you get calling me a crackhead. All that I said, and you focus on that... jeeeez...

And yes, something you shouldn't comment about. At least I've played, touched, and gasp... owned MESA's...