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    Just before my bands layoff my 5150 took a crap. It still works....well sorta, but sounds like ass and none of the controls work properly anymore, I can't even explain it.....something you'd have to see for yourselves. Anyways, although it sucked, it was before our layoff so I could just use one of my outdated backups for rehearsals until we started serious gigging again. Just buying a house, funds are non-existant, so I put the repair off until 2 weeks ago. I sent the amp to Jim Walton in Philadelphia who is well respected in the industry and is an authorized Peavey repair shop (as well as MANY other brands). My amp went in the shop at the same time as my other guitarrists VHT Ultralead....he needed tubes and a bias. Well, Wednesday, Dave picked the amps up, his sounds great and the job was inexpensive. My amp.......he couldn't figure it out. Said he's never seen or even heard of a 5150 doing this. Everything tests fine, and he even replaced a little circuit at the suggestion of Peavey who said to him that the amp must be "Fine" and just sounds that way?????? WTF? Jim told me to send it to Peavey and let them fix it but that it would be expensive and they'd probably have it a while. AUGHHHHHH!!!!!!

    So broke as I can be I knew I couldn't afford a "REAL" tube amp I started to scramble looking at used amps.....nothing really out there I could afford. So I started looking in directions I wouldn't normally and found something that I wouldn't want as my full time amp forever, but it could HOPEFULLY do a fine job for quite a while till I can actually fix the 5150. Just know that even my other guitarrist was shocked when I told him the direction I'm going in...... No funds so I brought my DK2S with me and went to of all hells Guitar Center. The manager practically greeted us at the door (unusual for GC, it's usually some douche that has half a brain) and almost excitedly took my guitar off to play with the sustainer. While he did that I saw my neighbor's son (older than me and a pretty good shredder) working in the guitar dept who started showing me the Line 6 cheaper products. Surprisingly enough, I was able to get a pretty decent tone out of a 150 watt Spider II head. I know, I know, but it does get a good tone. I don't use any effects and usually stick to one tone at shows, and this amp can do that for me. I was surprised at how loud this amp actually got and the mids aren't "shrilly" at all....it will be able to cut through with the VHT on the other side of the stage. I'm getting one sent from another store because all they had was the floor model so I won't have it until next week.

    So what I want to ask is that if anyone here has any expierience with gigging this amp, what are the pros and cons you'd point out. Not looking for haters like I was, but informed people with constructive comments that will help me when it comes to tweaking this thing.

    Anybody?
    Transitioning from Retired Musician from cover bands to a Full time vocalist/frontman/guitarist in an original and covers band....it's been a while and this should get NASTY!

    Check out the new band at - https://www.facebook.com/PerfectStormMetal/?fref=nf

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    The Spyder 2 sounds great until you play with the band. Once the drummer and the bass player kick in... POOF... your Spyder will disappear into the mix. Its a good practice amp. Thats all. If there is another guitar player in your band you will REALLY be in trouble.
    The only Line 6 amps that will cut it will be the Vetta and the HD147.
    Thats it.

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    • #3
      It happened to my 5150 too. But when the "crap" happened, there was dead-silence. I got it serviced and now its fine. but I am more than happy with the 5150 model on my GT-8 and so I have it up for sale on craigslist already. Goodbye tube-amps, hello SS. Probably I will get a tube power amp like John suggested. But GT-8's my baby for the time-being.
      Sam

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      • #4
        What John said. Best you can do with that amp is probably going to be to mic it and go through the PA.

        Pete

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        • #5
          I recently saw a band where one guitar player was playing a dual rectifier and the other was playing a Spyder 2 1/2 stack. It sounded like a 1 guitar band.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by emperor_black View Post
            It happened to my 5150 too. But when the "crap" happened, there was dead-silence. I got it serviced and now its fine. but I am more than happy with the 5150 model on my GT-8 and so I have it up for sale on craigslist already. Goodbye tube-amps, hello SS. Probably I will get a tube power amp like John suggested. But GT-8's my baby for the time-being.

            The GT-8, a decent stereo tube power amp and a nice set of stereo cabinets is certainly a killer rig for any situation.

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            • #7
              Any chance you would be able to do a line out of the 5150, then run it through another head for the poweramp? Then you'd be able to get that 5150 tone from the preamp and bypass other things that could possibly be messing it up.

              Don't know if that will work for sure, but it might be worth a shot.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Twisteramps View Post
                What John said. Best you can do with that amp is probably going to be to mic it and go through the PA.

                Pete
                Pete, we do have a soundguy every show. How will this thing take to micing?

                Originally posted by nsubulysses View Post
                Any chance you would be able to do a line out of the 5150, then run it through another head for the poweramp? Then you'd be able to get that 5150 tone from the preamp and bypass other things that could possibly be messing it up.

                Don't know if that will work for sure, but it might be worth a shot.
                No, the 5150 won't do that......it's way f'd up.
                Transitioning from Retired Musician from cover bands to a Full time vocalist/frontman/guitarist in an original and covers band....it's been a while and this should get NASTY!

                Check out the new band at - https://www.facebook.com/PerfectStormMetal/?fref=nf

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by VoiceX3 View Post
                  Pete, we do have a soundguy every show. How will this thing take to micing?



                  No, the 5150 won't do that......it's way f'd up.
                  Running a mic on it will work MUCH better than using the line outs, trust me. If your sound guy is good, he should be able to tweak your mids where it is hearable in the mix... I always used a mic with my Vetta and it worked great.

                  Pete

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                  • #10
                    Cool. At least it will get me by. You wouldn't be interested in trying to fix a possessed 5150 with some sort of serious unexplainable issue for me would you?
                    Transitioning from Retired Musician from cover bands to a Full time vocalist/frontman/guitarist in an original and covers band....it's been a while and this should get NASTY!

                    Check out the new band at - https://www.facebook.com/PerfectStormMetal/?fref=nf

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                    • #11
                      When I first bought my 5150 it would have volume swells. I took it in for repair and the tech told me that some of the solders were just loose or cracked. He resoldered the board and my amp has been working great since then. Total cost of $80. I'm not sure if that could be the case with your amp.

                      Last year I replaced it with a Mesa Triple Rec. I finally hooked up my 5150 and used for a gig last week, it still sounded great even though the Mesa just has more balls.
                      Damn, I love this Interweb.

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                      • #12
                        Nope, that wasn't the case unfortunately.
                        Transitioning from Retired Musician from cover bands to a Full time vocalist/frontman/guitarist in an original and covers band....it's been a while and this should get NASTY!

                        Check out the new band at - https://www.facebook.com/PerfectStormMetal/?fref=nf

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by VoiceX3 View Post
                          Cool. At least it will get me by. You wouldn't be interested in trying to fix a possessed 5150 with some sort of serious unexplainable issue for me would you?
                          What's it doing?

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                          • #14
                            Contact Jerry P. http://www.fjamods.com/Contact.html

                            He's like 4-ish hours from where you're at and I'm sure he'd help you troubleshoot over e-mail / the phone.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Inearthed View Post
                              Contact Jerry P. http://www.fjamods.com/Contact.html

                              He's like 4-ish hours from where you're at and I'm sure he'd help you troubleshoot over e-mail / the phone.
                              Yup! He's THE guy to go to for 5150's. He's got a lot of good reviews. On the west-coast, there is a guy in Oregon called Bob and he runs a company called Eurotubes. Hey, guess what "fja" stands for ..."F**kin Jerry Approved" :ROTF:
                              Sam

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