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  • #16
    s o l d a n o -hot rod series, avenger, or SLO -you knew I'd be putting this post up here

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    • #17
      Cool, Thanks Pete..I will check one of the bad boys out for sure!
      "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
      Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

      "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by lynchfan6 View Post
        s o l d a n o -hot rod series, avenger, or SLO -you knew I'd be putting this post up here
        Yeah, if he bought two of those amps he'd get three channels. :ROTF: Wouldn't have independent EQ on all three though.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Twisteramps View Post
          It's all subjective...

          A stock RM100 is ok with stock modules, I really prefer it after I've tweaked them though. One thing the JSX shines at is the fx loop, it's one of my favorites. However, you can run your pedals and damn near anything in the RM100 with an EbTech line level shifter.

          Pete
          Hey Pete, I just tried an Ebtech through the loop of my RM100 last night. I have some pedals going through the front and the following through the loop: Choralflange, Guyatone MD3 Delay, T-Rex Room Mate Reverb. If I go into the serial loop without the Ebtech, the Blackface module distorts. With the Ebtech its clean again but my distortion modules and volume drop I'm about to go the GCX loop switcher route but wondering if you have any suggestions on getting these pedals to work right through the loop without degrading the tone/causing distortion? BTW, the same thing happens in th eloop of my Uberschall too.
          Not trying to highjack the thread but figured this might help others considering a similar setup.
          Thanks.

          Rudy
          Rudy
          www.metalinc.net

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          • #20
            Originally posted by daisp View Post
            I've tried the EVHIII and thought is was great actually, I also have a Randall Lynch box with several different modules which kicks some serious ass. IMO
            Finally !!! A JCF'er with a Lynch Box! More pics! Review! Pics!
            I think your one of about 2 or 3 owners in the USA! I saw one in
            Vegas, and it looked like a Brutal Serial Killer!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by roodyrocker View Post
              Hey Pete, I just tried an Ebtech through the loop of my RM100 last night. I have some pedals going through the front and the following through the loop: Choralflange, Guyatone MD3 Delay, T-Rex Room Mate Reverb. If I go into the serial loop without the Ebtech, the Blackface module distorts. With the Ebtech its clean again but my distortion modules and volume drop I'm about to go the GCX loop switcher route but wondering if you have any suggestions on getting these pedals to work right through the loop without degrading the tone/causing distortion? BTW, the same thing happens in th eloop of my Uberschall too.
              Not trying to highjack the thread but figured this might help others considering a similar setup.
              Thanks.

              Rudy
              www.wickedrocks.com
              Try every combination on the in/out of the EbTech - I've had no problems running pedals in my RM100 and RM20 loop with the EbTech... but I had to swap one of the cables around. You are using the serial loop too, right?

              Pete

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              • #22
                Hi Pete; yes I'm using the serial loop. I did try swapping the in/out routing on the Ebtech. One way is too distorted and the other gives me my clean back but I lose gain on the distortion modules and volume overall.

                Rudy
                Rudy
                www.metalinc.net

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by lhrocker View Post
                  I'm looking to replace my Vetta 2 head with something else, tube maybe. If you were to spend up to 2k for a head, what would you get? I would like 3 independent channels - clean, crunch, modern, with independent eq and volume per channel. What's out there? I play everything from pop to metal.
                  Just looking to go in a different direction? Hmmm. I would say if you are not going tube then just stick with the Vetta but if you are going tube there are so many different options for that kind of coin.

                  The Soldano stuff will not get you into every type of tone and lacks channels with eq's but it does what it does the best IMO.

                  I would look into maybe getting a really nice tube power amp and try some different preamp setups.

                  The Randall RM100 stuff has peaked my interest a few times though I must say.

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                  • #24
                    Keep the Vetta Pete.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by jgcable View Post
                      Keep the Vetta Pete.
                      I actually grabbed a Flextone III for use with one of my bands - figured I would give up a little tone for ease of setup. Played a gig with the flex III one night, next night went ahead and hurt my back and used my Randall rig with the 4 module rack and channel switching power amp at a casino gig.

                      The Flextone is going to be left where the first band rehearses. It was ok, but screw it, I'm going to start pleasing myself again. It sounded fine through the PA, but I had more FUN playing through the tube gear.

                      *awaits the flames*

                      Pete

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by roodyrocker View Post
                        Hi Pete; yes I'm using the serial loop. I did try swapping the in/out routing on the Ebtech. One way is too distorted and the other gives me my clean back but I lose gain on the distortion modules and volume overall.

                        Rudy
                        www.wickedrocks.com
                        Very weird, I haven't noticed that on my stuff. *!* Have you thought about swapping out the tube that drives the fx loop? Mine does not behave that way at all.

                        Pete

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                        • #27
                          Hi Pete, yeah I was messing with it some more last night. If I plug a cable in/out of the loop with no pedals then its fine. Once I put the pedals through there it distorts. In fact I tried an entirely different stand alone pedal thats not on my board, just to test it, and distorted too. Eliminated cables as a problem too. We thought perhaps its the tube as well. I have new tubes on order, its time to re-tube the whole thing anyway. Already, replaced the 12AX7's in my main module, XTC, but I have to wait till the others arrive to do the rest of the amp. Hopefully its just the tube in the loop that is spanked. I'll let you know when install them. Thanks.

                          Rudy
                          Rudy
                          www.metalinc.net

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by roodyrocker View Post
                            Hi Pete, yeah I was messing with it some more last night. If I plug a cable in/out of the loop with no pedals then its fine. Once I put the pedals through there it distorts. In fact I tried an entirely different stand alone pedal thats not on my board, just to test it, and distorted too. Eliminated cables as a problem too. We thought perhaps its the tube as well. I have new tubes on order, its time to re-tube the whole thing anyway. Already, replaced the 12AX7's in my main module, XTC, but I have to wait till the others arrive to do the rest of the amp. Hopefully its just the tube in the loop that is spanked. I'll let you know when install them. Thanks.

                            Rudy
                            www.wickedrocks.com
                            I also wonder if Randall had a revision to the fx loop... my first one sounded like a bag of crap with anything in the loop, the one I have now seems to work better... but I didn't have the EbTech to test with the first amp either, so maybe I'm just remembering things incorrectly.

                            Pete

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Twisteramps View Post
                              I actually grabbed a Flextone III for use with one of my bands - figured I would give up a little tone for ease of setup. Played a gig with the flex III one night, next night went ahead and hurt my back and used my Randall rig with the 4 module rack and channel switching power amp at a casino gig.

                              The Flextone is going to be left where the first band rehearses. It was ok, but screw it, I'm going to start pleasing myself again. It sounded fine through the PA, but I had more FUN playing through the tube gear.

                              *awaits the flames*

                              Pete
                              I wasn't happy with the Flextone III either. Thats why I use the flagship. The Vetta.
                              Pumping through stereo cabinets and set up correctly.. nothing IMHO comes even close.
                              If I had a crew of roadies and we were touring I would use a multi-amp set up with a Bradshaw switching system. Most likely a mix of Soldano's, Vox's and Fender Twins along with a few racks full of outboard processing controlled by the best custom Bradshaw I could get my hands on. I would probably bring 10-15 different guitars too.
                              But.. I'm not touring.. I have no roadies and the Vetta is the closest thing to a multi-amp footswitchable system that I ever owned. I can also take it to the gig in my Nissan Sentra!!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by jgcable View Post
                                I wasn't happy with the Flextone III either. Thats why I use the flagship. The Vetta.
                                Pumping through stereo cabinets and set up correctly.. nothing IMHO comes even close.
                                If I had a crew of roadies and we were touring I would use a multi-amp set up with a Bradshaw switching system. Most likely a mix of Soldano's, Vox's and Fender Twins along with a few racks full of outboard processing controlled by the best custom Bradshaw I could get my hands on. I would probably bring 10-15 different guitars too.
                                But.. I'm not touring.. I have no roadies and the Vetta is the closest thing to a multi-amp footswitchable system that I ever owned. I can also take it to the gig in my Nissan Sentra!!
                                I owned a Vetta for 2 years and gigged the hell out of it, the Flex III has the same amp sims. Vetta does have more effects and tweakablity, but the two are much alike if you don't use the Vetta features like 2 amps at once and tons of effects. And yes, my Flex III was setup correctly. My Randall MTS setup crushed it. And it fit in my wife's Honda Civic.

                                Pete

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