Peavey JSX

[kmanick]

Glad you like those settings bibz.
I almost got rid of mine a couple of weeks ago because I was missing my 5150. These days I'm playing a lot of 7 string stuff and the 5150 works great with 7's. Someone over on the Peavey forum told me to run it as I've desribed and now I'm really getting some great sounds out of it.
I've seen the G3 show that last 2 years in a row here in Boston and I must say , that last years show with Yngwie Satchs amps sounded like crap, (pretty much exactly how everyone that gets an earlier JSX describes it). Very nasally, and honkish.
This year however , his rig sounded great, so I think they've either tweaked the circuitry in them (or Satch is using something else behind the JSX).
Petruccis Mark IV rig made Satch's rig and Gilberts Laney rig sound like transistor radios.
He had a huge thick clear sound all night, which is one of the reasons I've got gas for a mark IV.

for what I'm doing right now my JSX is great, Tim if you need a straight plug and play head that sounds the same with whatever you plug into it, it probably isn't a good match for you.

[Dreamland_Rebel]

you know joe only uses the clean channel of this amp. with a boss DS-1.

[hippietim]

Tim if you need a straight plug and play head that sounds the same with whatever you plug into it, it probably isn't a good match for you.

Woah. I never said anything like that. I sure as hell don't want an amp that neuters the input - I can get a Vetta again if that's what I wanted to do. I just don't want an amp that requires constant tweaking to maintain a good tone regardless of what you throw at it. Most of the other amps I mentioned in my initial post handle this with ease - most notably the Splawn modded Marshall and the Custom Audio stuff - I could switch from hot humbuckers to PAFs to a Tele to a Strat and all of the guitars sounded good and still retained their own voice.

[hippietim]

I really like that this amp is versatile enough to do all that - and more - at a pretty reasonable price. That doesn't mean that there aren't better and/or more versatile amps out there. Just that there aren't a lot of others that do it with this much bang for your buck.

Here's the thing, I'm not looking for a bang for your buck amp. I don't mind spending the coin on the right amp rig. Once I swap the tubes out and give it another test I'll know pretty quickly if the JSX is a keeper.

No question about the versatility. But there are a number of amps that meet or exceed the JSX in terms of bang for your buck so it doesn't stand out as an exceptional value in those terms.

[hippietim]

Yea me either.. JoE Satriani live sounds terrible.

The thing about tone is its subjective. Some people love certain amps and some hate them.

I think Joe sounds good live - at least the recent recordings I've heard. I've not been to a show of his since he switched to the JSX so I've not heard it myself.

[Endrik]

Petruccis Mark IV rig made Satch's rig and Gilberts Laney rig sound like transistor radios.

Mark II or Mark III makes Mark IV sound like a transistor radio

[kmanick]

Woah. I never said anything like that. I sure as hell don't want an amp that neuters the input - I can get a Vetta again if that's what I wanted to do. I just don't want an amp that requires constant tweaking to maintain a good tone regardless of what you throw at it. Most of the other amps I mentioned in my initial post handle this with ease - most notably the Splawn modded Marshall and the Custom Audio stuff - I could switch from hot humbuckers to PAFs to a Tele to a Strat and all of the guitars sounded good and still retained their own voice.

I probably worded that wrong, but I get want you mean.
when I switch guitars I have to tweak the EQ a little bit.
If spending the coin is not an Issue, by far the most impressive amp I've played thru yet , that gave me a great range of tones and seemed to sound good at every setting is the Engle SE (the one I tried had El34's in it).
They had one at the Boston guitar show and I played with it for a good hour.
If I could ratioanalize spending the coin, that's the amp I'd own.
it had a great clean, a huge range of gain tones and it seemed like no matter how it was set, it sounded good.
Now that amp makes a JSX sound like a transistor radio.

[hippietim]

You're the second person to suggest the ENGL SE. I may have to do a roadtrip soon...

[yard dawg]

I think Joe sounds good live - at least the recent recordings I've heard. I've not been to a show of his since he switched to the JSX so I've not heard it myself.

Thats the point of what I said. Tone is subjective. Some people love the JSX and can make it sound great. Some people love Marhsalls and can make them sound great. Some people even think Deizel amps suck. Alot of people think Line 6 stuff sucks while others love them.

Chasing personal tone is the quest of all guitarists and what works for some wont work for others. If you dont like the JSX take that thing back and find an amp you like. When you do find that amp there will be folks who think what you play thru sucks.


I just hope I can find my personal tone mahcine before I die
Fender clean and Marshall dirt.

[Infernal Death]

I think there are two scenarios of people searching for an amp. The first is the situation where you got a specific budget and need to keep it under a certain amount of money but of course try to find the best amp for the money. The second is when you simply are looking for an amp that satisfies your search for your tone, the price is second (of course this necessarily doesn't apply to amps like Dumble or Trainwreck which exceed the price of a car). As already said so many times, it's a personal thing of taste. But i also think it's wise to node that money high-priced amps cost so much for a reason.

The Engl SE is an incredible amp, although i only spend some time with it in a store. Very wide range of tones available with classic Engl quality. I am pretty sure i would own a Engl if i hadn't bought my Mesa. Bogners and Soldanos are even better IMO but right now way too much money for me. Then again, if you are looking for an amp in this price range there necessarily isn't an amp which is better than every other amp, it all comes down to what you are searching. They are all quality choices.

Flo

[Mordor]

Dude I think that is way normal that you find the JSX a mediocre amp, you played with some kick ass amps, and the JSX plays in the "normal" league if you ask me. Now I wouldn't mind to have one if it could be the only amp that I could have, but after having an engl and actually playing with a recto I really don't care about it.
That being said I totally agree with Flo, it just depends from what are you looking for.

[bibz]

Agreement here too. I tried an engl blackmore and I coulnd't get a bad sound out of it if no matter how extreme my settings. Wonderful amps engl, if I could afford an se (absolutely out the question down here) I'd have one for sure!

I dont think you'll end up liking the jsx much tim, not with a back history like yours. I am interested to see how it goes with the strat/tele. I bought mine because I was sick of playing through a modeller and then hearing dads vintage amps and there lush clean and tube breakup. The jsx can do marshall-esque rock tones, heavy distorted tones, scooped insane death metal all while keeping a lovely clean. Everything I want in only one amp. Which sucks cause I want atleast 8 or so

[jgcable]

Yea me either.. JoE Satriani live sounds terrible.

The thing about tone is its subjective. Some people love certain amps and some hate them.

If you would like to believe that Joe uses stock JSX amps live thats cool. Its not true.. but its cool to believe it. He goes through a very complex tweaked live rig. The JSX is in there somewhere (for endorsement purposes) so I guess technically you are correct. :ROTF:

[nateb]

The thing about tone is its subjective. Some people love certain amps and some hate them.

Hey man... Different strokes for different folks. I owned a Vetta II and a Mesa Roadster this year. They just didn't do it for me even though everyone swears up and down by them.

So, I said fuck it and got a Bogner Uberschall.

-Nate

[Firebird V]

When I Saw Joe Live A Few Years Ago He Used The Slo A Ton. The Jsx Ws On The Stage Right Next To It Though...