uli's tokyo tapes "fly to the rainbow" solo tone

[markD]

okay....i have been working for a few years to get the sound the uli roth achieves during the solo/poem section of "fly to the rainbow" of the "tokyo tapes" CD. i am NOT talking about his strat or the old marshall - more the delay and "swirling" effects he used.

i am looking to incorporate a SIMILAR (not exact) tone into my rig for live performances. i want that bluesy/hendrixish swirling during his solo.

my current rig is a rivera S120 running in a wet/dry setup with the dry signal feeding 2 rivera c112 cabs loaded with EVM12L speakers. the wet side feeds a mesa recto 2x12 with V30's.

my current effects pedals are: VOX wah -> MXR EVH phase 90 -> sansamp classic (for light grit on clean channel) -> yamaha distortion (for medium grit on clean channel) -> amp

i use a digitech effects processor in my rack (runs in the loop and splits the wet/dry signal)

my main guitar is my holoflake SL-1, though i play PC-1's on stage too, depending on my mood. though i am consider playing one of my fenders for the song i am thinking of....

i want this sound for a QUARTER of ONE song, so i don't want to hear about all these exotic expensive pedals. we're talking MAYBE a minute and 50 seconds.....

i was thinking the swirl could be achieved with a univibe, but i am not sure.

thanks!!

[charvel750]

Can't you get the "swirl" from a flange or phaser?

[markD]

well, i thought the MXR would get me close, but it just isn't enough....and it seems different. it's hard to explain. i have one of those digitech digital pahsers too, but that thing is more complicated than programming a rack!!!

i am redo all my rack setting this weekend to go along with the new midi-controller i am taking to the carribean, so maybe i will play with one of the phaser effects in the rack....it may be cooler as a loop effect than a front effect....

[jgcable]

I am pretty sure its a phase shifter.

[MSGfan]

okay....i have been working for a few years to get the sound the uli roth achieves during the solo/poem section of "fly to the rainbow" of the "tokyo tapes" CD. i am NOT talking about his strat or the old marshall - more the delay and "swirling" effects he used.

i am looking to incorporate a SIMILAR (not exact) tone into my rig for live performances. i want that bluesy/hendrixish swirling during his solo.

my current rig is a rivera S120 running in a wet/dry setup with the dry signal feeding 2 rivera c112 cabs loaded with EVM12L speakers. the wet side feeds a mesa recto 2x12 with V30's.

my current effects pedals are: VOX wah -> MXR EVH phase 90 -> sansamp classic (for light grit on clean channel) -> yamaha distortion (for medium grit on clean channel) -> amp

i use a digitech effects processor in my rack (runs in the loop and splits the wet/dry signal)

my main guitar is my holoflake SL-1, though i play PC-1's on stage too, depending on my mood. though i am consider playing one of my fenders for the song i am thinking of....

i want this sound for a QUARTER of ONE song, so i don't want to hear about all these exotic expensive pedals. we're talking MAYBE a minute and 50 seconds.....

i was thinking the swirl could be achieved with a univibe, but i am not sure.

thanks!!

I just got finished listening to the song and not sure what you mean by "Swirling" effect. I don't hear anything like that unless you're talking about near the very end of the song where it pans back and forth real fast from speaker to speaker on a stereo system.
I hear (of course) distortion, a very quick slap back delay with multible repeats, tremelo arm on the strat used quite a bit, volume knob swells and possibly a little bit of muteing of the tone done with a wah pedal. On the middle section of the song with the more mellow parts it sounds like the chorus on an old Roland Space echo tape delay (which I know he used) On other songs with heavy distortion and delay when he's doing some dive bomb type trem licks it definatly sounds like he has a Univibe pedal on.
I have a Fulltone De'ja Vibe that will recreate that sound pretty well!

[jk2171]

Where's Bill? He's the Uli authority and might be able to answer this.