5150 questions

[bfloyd6969]

A little off topic but, I wonder why Peavey didn't include the 5150 in their Revalver Mk. III software. They've got just about all the others in there. Maybe because it has been discontinued??? . . .

[emperor_black]

A little off topic but, I wonder why Peavey didn't include the 5150 in their Revalver Mk. III software. They've got just about all the others in there. Maybe because it has been discontinued??? . . .

If I remember looking at the GW ad for what you're talkng about, they do include the 6505 which is exactly the same as the 5150. Eddie owns the 5150 name.

EDIT: I just looked up and they include both the 6505 and the 6505+ which are the same as 5150 and 5150 II

[bibz]

A new amp sim plugin just came out called overloud th1, it has a killer 5150 in it!

[bfloyd6969]

If I remember looking at the GW ad for what you're talkng about, they do include the 6505 which is exactly the same as the 5150. Eddie owns the 5150 name.

EDIT: I just looked up and they include both the 6505 and the 6505+ which are the same as 5150 and 5150 II

Yeah, those are in there as I have the Mk. III HP version. I just didn't realize that these were basically the same amp. Cool.

[bfloyd6969]

A new amp sim plugin just came out called overloud th1, it has a killer 5150 in it!

I heard that was a pretty pricey simware . . . The sound samples were very impressive though.

[jdr94]

i heard that you could change out either the 2nd and 3rd or maybe it was the 3rd and 4th preamp tubes to lo-gain ones to make the clean channel more usable. anyone else heard this/done this?

[siggy14]

The original Block letter sold with better tubes so it sounded better, until those tubes died. So basically if you take the block and the script put them side by side with the same tubes they would sound almost identical, i say almost because no amps always sound the same.

I found the 5150II to be a little bit more smooth, where the original was more agressive in nature. They both had about the same amount of gain.

I agree, every combo i played sounded sick with loads of gain.

Well I've had the block letter head and the signature head, they sounded the same to me. I can't hear one bit of difference between the 5150/5150ll and their newer versions, the 6505/6505+ either. The only amp in all of that range that sounds different to me is the 5150 combo (I've never tried the 6505 combo). The combo sounds (to my ears) like it has a bit more gain.

[horns666]

The original Block letter sold with better tubes so it sounded better, until those tubes died. So basically if you take the block and the script put them side by side with the same tubes they would sound almost identical, i say almost because no amps always sound the same.

I found the 5150II to be a little bit more smooth, where the original was more agressive in nature. They both had about the same amount of gain.

I agree, every combo i played sounded sick with loads of gain.

True..actually John bought my first two block letter ones. One of them was the very first one to arrive in our area. Paid 800 bucks for it out the door the day it arrived at the store. I had five all together, three block and two script. Not much difference really, but the first one I had was my fave for whatever reason..it just sounded great to my ears. All came with Sylvania tubes. With the help/advise from Dr Z I retubed two of them with GT hardness #6. Man did that suck...I was so pissed! I think the stock cheap sylvanias ruled in those amps..

[Evol]

I still have my all original block head that I got the day they first showed up in stock. It still has all the original tubes and sounds great. You can notice the difference over the years in the sound, but I must say it's really smoothed out over the years that I don't even use my BBE anymore. It needed it for awhile because to my ears the tone was a tad bright and brittle. But the response of the amp was and is amazing, and like others have said the matching cab is a must! The resonance control is like warm hot love for the 5150 cab, and to me it sounds like steaming ass with anything else.

It has lost a touch of gain (I've gone from it being at 6.5-7 to 7.5ish), but that's only noticeable at low volume levels anyhow, and if you're buying this amp to play quiet, well it's the wrong amp.

The only problem I've ever had with it is that it blew a couple of fuses at the same venue on 2 separate occasions. But never anywhere else, so I can blame that on the fruity power in that place. My amp now looks like it's been in a war, tore up, beat to hell, knobs missing, vent cover cracked and melted, it's been dropped, all types of liquids and fluids spilled over it, hell it's prolly even been jizzed on at some point, etc, etc..... the top cabinet even looks worse if you can imagine that...

Now, this is coming from someone who played Marshalls for years prior, and Lord (or Satan) knows I love a damn good Marshall sound, but those poor things just cannot take the abuse from the road, at least not in my experience, and plenty of others that I've talked to over the years. I think I frowned in displeasure at my Marshalls once and they took it personal and blew themselves to smithereens.

The 5150 has been everywhere and most likely has every type of VD to prove it.

[jdr94]

dammit!! 2 days of playin and the 5150 starts crappin out on me! minimum gain and minimum volume!! looks like my $475 head is gonna end up costing me closer to 700 once i get it looked at.

[Cleveland Metal]

Sounds like a tube... If you don't have a 12ax7 around, move some of the preamp tubes around and see if the issue "changes". Hopefully, and likely, it's a preamp tube.

[jdr94]

thanks. i'll check it out.

[emperor_black]

as long as there's volume, its not going to cost you that much. My bandmate's carvin fried (black smoke through chassis). he got a whole set of power tubes, preamp tubes and serviced for $180.

[jdr94]

as long as there's volume, its not going to cost you that much. My bandmate's carvin fried (black smoke through chassis). he got a whole set of power tubes, preamp tubes and serviced for $180.

whew, thats good news. i've never had a tube amp serviced so i was expecting to pay alot. i'm gonna try the preamp tubes and if that doesnt work then off to the shop it shall go. good thing i got a backup head.

[jdr94]

ok so i send my 5150 to the shop. they say there was a bad solder and replaced the power tubes. cost me $150 so i get back, plug it up and damn its loud now, but my gain still isnt there(its there,just more like ac/dc than it is slayer), not only that now i got a noise in my loops return jack. can someone tell me does my rhythm channel have to be on crunch in order to get serious gain on my lead channel?