Getting a used G Force to give my GT-10 some company!

[Robert Burns]

Well i joined the TC Electronic family... Couldnt pass on a mint G Major !
for $220.00 shipped! Will be interesting to see how the GT-10 and
the G work together? Certainly should have some "Lush" and sparkle
to my tone!

How would you guys set them up? I have an old Digitech RP12 that
i could use as a floor only Midi Switcher...or use the GT-10 for floor
midi switching of the ADA MP-1 and the G Major? Right now..even
though most feel that im not using the ADA to it's fullest... Im running
the ADA thru my GT-10's "Loop" as a boost, in and out of certain effects.
Sounds Huge! Very clear, and defined.. Using the ADA' loop to put the
GT thru, is thin, and nasal. I tried all the "Send and Return levels...
at all kinds of set points, and still sounded way worse, than putting the ADA
thru the GT-10's "Loop"..
The ADA Loop isnt up to par imo.. a bit noisy. Would you guys use
the G Major as the "Base" control? Or make the GT-10 the main unit,
and run the G thru the GT-10's "Loop", and then put the ADA MP-1
thru the G' Forces Mains input? I think the G does NOT have a Loop?

[jgcable]

Are you sure its a G Force??
They sell on Ebay for anywhere from $815.00 to $1400.00
How the heck did you score one for $220.00 shipped?
Damn....

[AK47]

Maybe its a G Major?

[jgcable]

Maybe its a G Major?

Thats what I am thinking.

[Robert Burns]

Sorry guys! I guess that was a Freudian slip? Yeah, it's
the Major sorry... $389 new.. $220 shipped for a super clean one.
Too much spiked EggNog on Christmas!

[Cleveland Metal]

Or make the GT-10 the main unit, and run the G thru the GT-10's "Loop", and then put the ADA MP-1 thru the G' Forces Mains input? I think the G does NOT have a Loop?

That would sound like the appropriate way of doing biz to me...

On a side note... Ehh, why even use the MP-1... It's like the lo-fi bottleneck of that hi-fi equipment you have. I'd figure that has the worst freq range and highest noise of everything you have. And, they sound awfully dated... Other than that one piece, you have some outstanding equipment...

Personally, I'd make a seperate "time capsule" (haha) rig of the MP-1, some time based unit, and a power amp, and then use the other bad assed stuff (VHT, GT-10, Gmajor) that you have to make a truly bomb, high end rig.

Not that I'm a big fan of it, but doesn't the GT-10 do everything the Gmajor does? Plus it's a preamp with distortion right?

[jgcable]

That would sound like the appropriate way of doing biz to me...

On a side note... Ehh, why even use the MP-1... It's like the lo-fi bottleneck of that hi-fi equipment you have. I'd figure that has the worst freq range and highest noise of everything you have. And, they sound awfully dated... Other than that one piece, you have some outstanding equipment...

Personally, I'd make a seperate "time capsule" (haha) rig of the MP-1, some time based unit, and a power amp, and then use the other bad assed stuff (VHT, GT-10, Gmajor) that you have to make a truly bomb, high end rig.

Not that I'm a big fan of it, but doesn't the GT-10 do everything the Gmajor does? Plus it's a preamp with distortion right?

I agree. Its like putting a carburetor on a new Porsche.

[Robert Burns]

That would sound like the appropriate way of doing biz to me...

On a side note... Ehh, why even use the MP-1... It's like the lo-fi bottleneck of that hi-fi equipment you have. I'd figure that has the worst freq range and highest noise of everything you have. And, they sound awfully dated... Other than that one piece, you have some outstanding equipment...

Personally, I'd make a seperate "time capsule" (haha) rig of the MP-1, some time based unit, and a power amp, and then use the other bad assed stuff (VHT, GT-10, Gmajor) that you have to make a truly bomb, high end rig.

Not that I'm a big fan of it, but doesn't the GT-10 do everything the Gmajor does? Plus it's a preamp with distortion right?

Most likely the GT-10 can be made to do everything the G does..but
those Delay's, and Chorus's on the G' just sound amazing to me..
so im investing what the price of a boutique pedal would cost...to find out. I may also split my system, so that one 4 rack space, can have
a portable setup, with the Peavey SS 200 Stereo amp, running thru the
Gmajor, out to 2 single Celestion G12 cabs..(i have these too also.
That way, if i did travel or gig at a friends house..i can grab one
rack, and leave my main setup alone at home. For some sounds the
ADA helps..but overall it does lack true 44.4 hz audio quality. So maybe
i'll leave it out, and see what i get with just the VHT, GT-10, and Gforce ?
Hard to tweak the ADA into being Warm' and "Big sounding for me at least. It's no where near the "In your face" distortion, and huge tone
that the modelling GT10 can produce. Maybe im just not good with finding
the tones on the ADA? And WOW ! Thanks for saying my equipment is good...considering i dont have 1/4 of the quality
of your rack !

[Cleveland Metal]

Well the GT-10 is probably EXTREMELY deep and finding stuff in it is a chore. But it's probably pretty effective. I'll figure it will do whatever the Major does, and then some. But, the Major is fast to get those sounds immediately. Great units really.

I say MP-1> G-Major> Peavey and then another setup using the GT-10> VHT

As for the MP-1, not much to it and it does what it does pretty simply. Never liked them much myself.

I'd probably prefer and ENGL 570>G-Major> VHT myself, haha... That might not do the 80s stuff so genuinely tho...

[Robert Burns]

Well the GT-10 is probably EXTREMELY deep and finding stuff in it is a chore. But it's probably pretty effective. I'll figure it will do whatever the Major does, and then some. But, the Major is fast to get those sounds immediately. Great units really.

I say MP-1> G-Major> Peavey and then another setup using the GT-10> VHT

As for the MP-1, not much to it and it does what it does pretty simply. Never liked them much myself.

I'd probably prefer and ENGL 570>G-Major> VHT myself, haha... That might not do the 80s stuff so genuinely tho...

*** Thanks for your help! (you too JC!) I think that Engl is going
to have to be my next purchase.. I almost was going to get a used
Mesa studio pre for $500.00 but i drug my feet.. Should i be able to
get that Engl for around $900.00?

[Shawn Lutz]

you dont need any more delays dude

[Cleveland Metal]

Preamps really depend on what you're trying to do musically.

Main reason I want an ENGL 570 is that they are pretty heavy brutal sounding. YOU, might not quite want or need that. You might just love the cheaper and less gainer 620 or 530. Or, some other preamp even.

Plenty of cheaper stuff out there that does a lot. Sansamp PSA-1 is pretty outstanding.

You just might love the MESA studio preamp. I sure hated it, but people like it. Carvin makes a comparable unit as well.

I'd exhaust the cheaper stuff before finally deciding to dump a grand into something. For me, I made my way to the CAE3+se, and I love it. But, still need a lil heavier, so the 570 is the next step. BUT, that is the style of metal I play. Arch Enemy sounding and heavier. Most of the bands that are playing the 570 are pretty wild bands. Severed Savior is a standout demonstration of the 570.

[Dogbone]

I've been using an Mp1 for years now, and have recently made the switch form a Quadraverb to a G Major. I don't run it though the effects loop on the Mp1 even though I have, I just prefer it after the Mp1. My setup is fairly simple, but gives me the sounds, and the tone I like, but I'm a stuck in the 80's player, and have never had a desire to try and modernize my tone.
On to my rack...
Furman M8LX
Mp1,
G Major,
BBE 362,
Peavey Classic 50/50
Controlled by a Rocktron Midimate
I run two 1x12 cabs with vintage 30's
I also have two older 5150 straight cabs, but rarely use them at home.
To me, it seems that you have to much processing going on.
I would agree with the above recommendations, and build two rigs out of what you have. Just keep it simple, and you will find the results my surprise you, sometimes less is more
Btw, if you don't feel that the Mp1 is giving you enough gain, there is always the 3TM mod... Instant Mesa tones, and a lot less money than buying a new preamp
Just my two pennies

[Cleveland Metal]

Well said...

Cool rig... Be interested in hearing the 3tm modded MP-1. Know of any clips anywere?

And welcome to the board man...

[Dogbone]

Thanks for the welcome, I should have posted in the general section about myself first I suppose, but this caught my eye...
Anyway on to the topic at hand,
There are a few clips of the 3tm mod here

http://www.adadepot.com/adagear/detailled/ADA-MP-1/mods/3TM.htm#1

Also there is the 3.66 mod.
Here's a few vids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a8Or3irxFo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfJRWeqR9FA

A little to heavy for me, but like I said, I'm stuck in the 80's but the above vids gives a little bit of an idea of the mod capabilities of the Mp1
I've thought about picking up another Mp1, and doing the 3tm mod just for kicks