Tube Power Amp Experience

[markD]

I got rid of my 212 to get a 412 b/c I wanted more low end. Then I sold the 412 and went back to the 212 b/c I didn't want to downsize. Now I'm thinking of going back to the 412 b/c of the low end issue again...I just can't make up my friggin mind!

Sounds like I more than likely won't go wrong with any of these. Thanks for the info fellas!

do you play out? if you do, don't sweat the low-end thing from your cabs. if you play at home only, that's a different story....

[6string40]

I think I've settled on looking at the Mesa 2:90. The only question I have about it is the use of the 3 voicings. The manual says you can use a tip-to-ground switcher, something with which I'm unfamiliar. Who makes them? How much do they cost? What exactly do they do?

[Rupe]

Those are just your standard switch like you would use for channel changes on an amp...they would plug into the three 1/4" input jacks on the back (or any one of them...I typically only use the 1/2 power function).

Where are you at in central PA? I gig in State College...I could show you how I have mine set up if you would like.

[clifffclaven]

Well if going Marshall, DEFINITELY..DEFINITELY get the 9200 with 5881 (6L6)..You'll have much more headroom, and a MUCH better bottom end. I bought mine in '96 and still love it. I had other friends buy the 9200 with EL34..no comparison.

This is a JMP-1 into a Peavey 120/120 (6L6)...live in a basement studio. Recorded in 1996..

http://clevelandmetalzone.com/mp3/doctor.mp3

http://clevelandmetalzone.com/mp3/dance.mp3

http://clevelandmetalzone.com/mp3/i'mtheone.mp3

My ol' bud in my old VH trib band played a JMP-1 into a Peavey 120/120 and that sounded fantasic too. He downsized his poweramp because he was sick of hauling a heavy rack..man that really sucked ass!!

If you play 80's rock/metal..you want my Marshall rig! Marshall 9200w/6L6/JMP-1/JFX-1/BBE 422 into four Marshall 1960B cab w/ 75 wt celestions. I rely on preamp distortion and want the most headroom, and full-bodied sound possible from the poweramp.

My other amp is a Bogner Uberschall..actually both rigs sound amazing together.

+1 on this, i also have the 9200 w/ 5881s. great amp. unfortunately, weighs enough to give you a hernia.

[jdr94]

i got a mesa 50/50 and you can grab one for 450-550 maybe less. i like it alot. theres someone sellin a couple peaveys over at HC.... here it is http://acapella.harmony-central.com/....php?t=2355159 if youre still lookin.

[jem777az]

I had almost the exact same setup with a Marshall EL34 50/50 and I loved it's sound. I could dial in almost any tone I wanted with that setup. I can't speak to the Marshall 9200 cause I've never played one, but I think the MP-1 pairs better with EL34's than 6L6's IMO.

What's the difference between the Marshall 9100, 9200 and the EL34 50/50 and 100? Is it just the tubes or are there other differences?

[horns666]

Nah..Marshalls have PLENTY of mids, and not known for much bottom end. The 6L6 still have all the mids you need, but a much tighter, focused, and defined bottom end which make that amp more balanced and full-bodied. I had four friends buy the EL34 version and everyone agreed without question when paired with the JMP-1. It can be converted to 5881 (6L6).

9200 = 2 X 100wts My fave because JMP-1 has enough gain w/ silicone diode, and has the right amount of headroom..so that you're tone doesn't change dramatically from bedroom and very LOUD levels. I run this with both presence off, gains full on and in Modern voice mode.

9100 = 2 X 50 ..sounds identical to 9200 at bedroom to moderate levels, tone changes due to pushing the poweramp section. Not as full-bodied and has a low and high end roll off that goes into compressed midrange territory. Something that was desired in the days of non master volume Marshalls.

EL 34 100/100 and 50/50..self explanitory and as I described above. EL34 fair better in other amps such as Bogner, Mesa..but not Marshall IMO! Too much "honk". The Peavey 120/120 or even 60/60 was definitely cooler and cheaper than these with JMP-1. Like I said, EL34 can be converted to 6L6 without much hassle ..so I'm told. KT 88s may even be better. I'd be interested in that.

I bought this rig new in 1996. Played many since. Mine is bone stock and the best sounding when paired with 5881s and JFX-1. Something about the JFX-1 with this rig sounds best even when compared to G major, Intellifex or my old Lexicons. Very basic time effects..delays, choruse, reverb, also insist of the stock Sovteks. I tried Tung Sols and JJ 12AX7s. Tung Sols and Sovtek didn't make a huge difference..the JJ's completely sucked the balls.

BTW: I swear by running a BBE 422 in the loop. This of course goes stereo into four Marshall 1960B cabs.

That's it, To me running this set up anyway else is a compromise, and I would NOT have the sound I have. Therefore would prolly buy something else all together.