peavey 6505+, Mesa mark v or mesa dual rect?

[ginjisan]

hey, im buying a new amp, i'm playing thrash metal, nu metal, death metal, and some blues, which amp should i buy?

[horns666]

This is completely up to you. I strongly advise to play all of them several times. Tone is subjective and should be something that you should decide for yourself.

Both the 6505 (5150) and Dual Recto have been around since '90 and '91. I owned all three pretty much 5150, Recto, and Mesa mrk III..at the same time and I chosed the 5150, and stuck with those for years. But I've found better since..so.

Your styles are not very specific..thrash..Nu...death...blues?

a Marshall JVM..Peavey JSX, or the newer (cheaper) 3120.. People are diggin' on Randalls lately..but they're not for me.

Then there's Splawn, Bogner, VHT, ect..

Good luck..

[chrisolson]

Nu metal...Blues... That's eclectic. Not really saying 6505 to me. Thrash & Death maybe, but no the other two.

[ecsong187]

I'd say get a Mark IV or a Mesa Roadster, super versatile. I haven't played the Mark 5, but I'd try out all the amps

[Spivonious]

I think you'd be happiest with the Mark V out of those three.

[DRM]

Mark V.

[horns666]

Mark V.

David, what about your Carvin V3..?

[khabibissell]

Well, out of the three you mentioned, I've owned a 6505 and three different Rectos (single, dual, and a Roadster). As far as Rectos go, you really have to spend alot of time with them to see whether or not you'll like them, not to mention it takes a long time to get the hang of how to dial them in properly. I wouldn't recommend them to anyone do to that fact as they are a completely different animal than just about every amp out there. Some people love them, and some people hate them. I think they are great amps for their intended purpose. In my experience, Rectos have some a character about them that really can't be dialed out without any outboard help namely the bass response. They have a vagueness to the pick attack on the lower strings that can be helped a bit by turning the bass down and dialing up the mids, but then the amp starts to feel very stiff. This got to me after a while. Also, the amp does get muddy when you crank up the gain... a clean boost does improve both of these qualities a bit, but not entirely. Also, the highs are a bit fizzy and thin sounding... this is a pretty inherent quality, meaning it is there regardless of how you spin the knobs. Also, all Rectos need to be turned up. My best results were achieved by turning the master to 12 o'clock and dialing the channel volumes to get the desired volume. This also helps improve clean headroom if you're using a single, dual, or triple. Another thing that I should mention is that the amps seem to lack sustain when dialed in like I mentioned above, making lead work very tough. Roadsters have a really good clean channel and onboard reverb. The problem with the Roadster (I never played a Roadking), is that the distortion channels are a bit dark sounding and its hard to get a good crunch out of them without the fizz and stiffness that I mentioned earlier being present. Again, Roadsters are a Recto and have very similar qualities to the other amps in the line, so don't think a Roadking or Roadster is going sound much different than a dual or triple. If I were to rate the Rectos that I had, it would be the single (though I had a bias mod done to it), the dual, and the Roadster. Again, great amps and they are built like a tank, but you have to try before you buy. If you are looking at Boogies, check out the Stilettos. They are pretty sweet.

The Peavey was pretty cool, though as with the JSX that I had, they are very noisy. I don't crank the gain either... I would wind it up on the red channel to 5.5 - 6 on the dial max... they have gobs of gain too. Maybe too much. My favorite tone with the 6505 was using the crunch button on the green channel with the gain dimed. Nice crunch and sustain, though it didn't have the authority that the red channel had (it was a bit thinner sounding).

Another thing I have found is that it is hard to recommend a high gain amp to anyone because you can dial any of them in to sound similar. The big difference is how the amp feels to your pick attack. You really have to spend alot of time with them before you buy.

For reference, the two amps that I'm pretty satisfied with at the moment are my Stiletto Ace and Soldano Avenger. Both work very well for the hard rock/metal stuff my band plays. They both also have awesome lead tones that sustain nicely and feel great to play. The only downfall with the Soldano is that it is a single channel amp with no loop or clean. Some may see this as a negative... personally, I think the amp sounds so amazing that I can overlook that.

[jgcable]

It will be hard to find an amp that will do nu metal, thrash, death and blues.

Forget the Dual Recto.
Forget the 6505+
I would imagine the Mark V could cover any ground.

Personally, I would get a used blues amp like a Fender Tweed or a Blues Deville and a used Peavey 5150. With the money you have left get a decent amp switcher. Done.

[skintaster]

It will be hard to find an amp that will do nu metal, thrash, death and blues.

Forget the Dual Recto.
Forget the 6505+
I would imagine the Mark V could cover any ground.

Personally, I would get a used blues amp like a Fender Tweed or a Blues Deville and a used Peavey 5150. With the money you have left get a decent amp switcher. Done.

+1 to that idea.

[Joelski]

Yep. Kind of impossible to get that range of tone form any amp. You would be far better off getting something with awesome clean/crunch and then another amp altogether for the face peeling gain.

It will be hard to find an amp that will do nu metal, thrash, death and blues.

Forget the Dual Recto.
Forget the 6505+
I would imagine the Mark V could cover any ground.

Personally, I would get a used blues amp like a Fender Tweed or a Blues Deville and a used Peavey 5150. With the money you have left get a decent amp switcher. Done.

[chrisolson]

Yep. Kind of impossible to get that range of tone form any amp.

...And then it hits me in the face - Flextone!! ...Or maybe a Vetta.

[petez0r]

i have owned a single recto, and currently own the roadster, and i recomend the roadster highly, it is very versatile and really if you like that recto tone....well theres no other amp that trumps it. i recently played the 6505, and the jsx, and imo the jsx > 6505 like x10. if i were you i would wait for that markV though its supposed to be amazing, i already have a deposit and will have first dibbs on the first one in my city.

[roodyrocker]

It will be hard to find an amp that will do nu metal, thrash, death and blues.

Forget the Dual Recto.
Forget the 6505+
I would imagine the Mark V could cover any ground.

Personally, I would get a used blues amp like a Fender Tweed or a Blues Deville and a used Peavey 5150. With the money you have left get a decent amp switcher. Done.

Actually its not as hard as it seems. The Randall was mentioned earlier and this seems like a better choice in this situation than the Mesas and Peaveys. Thats the beauty of the Randall RM100, slap in a 1086 (Dan Donegan) module or one of the Ultra type modules and there's your real heavy tone. Pop in a Tweed, or Blackface and there's your blues tone. And there are modules to suit everything in between. Its also a very easy amp to dial in. In fact, with 3 pre-amp slots you can have all the tones mentioned eaerlier loaded into the amp at once. Step on the appropriate channel button with the provided footswitch and you can flip between those tones instantly live. I also own a Dual Recto and while I like it, it can't compete with the Randall for versatility. Check out the Randall RM100

[Larz]

Besides actually trying the amps as recommended above, try and bring and play one or two of your top guitars through them, as that will give you the closest test to your own ears as to the actual tone you will be purchasing.