What's all the hype about Axe Fx?

[DHardmanJr]

What are those Bose speakers in Schenker's stack?

[roodyrocker]

Is that an Axe-FX in Schenker's rig?

Yep, Michael has been consulting with me and Tim as you can see

[hippietim]

that is definitely an axe-fx

[ulijdavid]

Is that an Axe-FX in Schenker's rig?

[roodyrocker]

just hotplate it , I do with my red stripe and it sounds killer.
I played thru one of these Axe-FX9the Ultra) units the other night. I was vvery impressed , especially with the wide array of clean tones built into this thing.
but after palying around with it for about an hour we plugged into a Deizel Herbert head (we were using the Diezel cab with the Axe-FX too, and the Deizel sounded huge next to it. then we plugged into Rivera Seven head, same result, modeler are great, I will probably buy one of these at some point for myself but maybe the reason the pros use real tube amps is because they can crank them up and get the full "effect" of the amp. My Mark III sounds better and better as that master goes up.
The Axe FX seems to sound the same at old volumes which I find really nice.
I'd like one of each.

Yes, the Pros can turn up tube heads much more than we can due to the size of the places they play. But these have to be really big places. Paul Gilbert was still using a Hot Plate with his Rhoads Marshall amp when I saw him with Racer X in January. I have a Hot Plate for my Rhoads Marshall head too and will eventually try it live at the small clubs we play in my cover band On comparing the Axe Fx to real tube heads, I have to say the Axe Fx compared rather well to my Mesa Dual Recto. Compared to your Diezel and Rivera amps I can't say as I never A/B'd them. Sometimes it depends on how you are running the Axe-Fx. Was it through a guitar cab and a power amp or through powered monitors like the QSC HPR series? And yes, one thing the Axe Fx has that real tube amps don't is the ability to the same tone at any volume level not just when cranked. Attenuators do change the tone a bit but they're a necessary evil for something like my Marshall Rhoads amp.

[horns666]

Wassup Nick..where ya been hidin'?!

[kmanick]

just hotplate it , I do with my red stripe and it sounds killer.
I played thru one of these Axe-FX9the Ultra) units the other night. I was vvery impressed , especially with the wide array of clean tones built into this thing.
but after palying around with it for about an hour we plugged into a Deizel Herbert head (we were using the Diezel cab with the Axe-FX too, and the Deizel sounded huge next to it. then we plugged into Rivera Seven head, same result, modeler are great, I will probably buy one of these at some point for myself but maybe the reason the pros use real tube amps is because they can crank them up and get the full "effect" of the amp. My Mark III sounds better and better as that master goes up.
The Axe FX seems to sound the same at old volumes which I find really nice.
I'd like one of each.

[jgcable]

You forgot to mention either a) the fatigued ears from hearing your thin buzzy tone because they wouldn't let you turn up or b) the bleeding ears because they did :ROTF:

Those facts were implied Tim!!

Truthfully.. gigging with the Mark III sucks. The tone is incredible but the only time I can turn it up is a band rehearsal!!

[jgcable]

Don't forget to add in the price of tubes. They don't last forever and it gets quite expensive to re-tube a head. Also, your setup above has not even one effect which is fine if thats what you like but if you need a bit of chorus, delay, whatever then start adding more stuff to the above list and more $

I forgot to mention I have a $50.00 delay and a $25.00 chorus in the loop.

Regarding tubes.. Mesa tubes are cheap and I only replace them when I notice that the amp is starting to sound dull which usually is around 2 years for preamp tubes and 3 years+ for power tubes.

[jgcable]

How about back overload as in a head and 412 are not fun to lug around. Yes, I'm getting old.

Roadies.

[Matt_B]

Mesa Boogie Mark III Green stripe head, Marshall 4 x 12 bottom, guitar cord, guitar. No CPU overload hear... just great tone.

How about back overload as in a head and 412 are not fun to lug around. Yes, I'm getting old.

[roodyrocker]

Mesa Boogie Mark III Green stripe head, Marshall 4 x 12 bottom, guitar cord, guitar.
No CPU overload hear... just great tone.

Don't forget to add in the price of tubes. They don't last forever and it gets quite expensive to re-tube a head. Also, your setup above has not even one effect which is fine if thats what you like but if you need a bit of chorus, delay, whatever then start adding more stuff to the above list and more $

[hippietim]

Mesa Boogie Mark III Green stripe head, Marshall 4 x 12 bottom, guitar cord, guitar.
No CPU overload hear... just great tone.

You forgot to mention either a) the fatigued ears from hearing your thin buzzy tone because they wouldn't let you turn up or b) the bleeding ears because they did :ROTF:

[Matt_B]

I'm thinking of getting a Tech 21 MIDI Mouse for that.

I'd suggest looking into a MIDI pedal that has built in expression pedals (or at least has inputs for them) and will send CC (continuous controller) messages.

Expression pedals will allow you to foot control the wah, whammy pedal function, change volume, amp gain, panning, effects levels, etc., etc.

Continuous controllers (basically on/off or momentary switching functions) will allow you to treat effects blocks in the Axe-FX like stomp boxes, channel switching, etc.

Just some things to consider.

[jgcable]

Mesa Boogie Mark III Green stripe head, Marshall 4 x 12 bottom, guitar cord, guitar.
No CPU overload hear... just great tone.