Charvel vs. ESP - Levin vs. Lynch

[Torment Leaves Scars]

Yeah, but the difference is for you Metallica isn't your stuff. For George, the Dokken stuff is his stuff.

IMO I think he's resting on his laurels. He climbed the guitar hero mountain and lived near the top for a few years. Now I think he'd rather just chill and live off the glory. Nothing wrong with that. Like Yngwie for me, what he did back then will be remembered fondly for how groundbreaking it was at the time. I don't need them to crank out new stuff to keep wowing me, I can just throw on something they did in 1984 and be happy at that.

And how's this any different from what Metallica, Kiss, and Aerosmith are doing? Metallca's absolute shit these days. Aren't Metallica, Kiss, and Aerosmith just "chilling and living off their glory," because it sure seems so to me.

Eddie Van Halen is the only one who's blunt about it; "We put out new stuff, and nobody wanted to hear it, so I quit wasting my money."

[horns666]

BTW: We must recycle our unlimited source of spermatazoon supply as our main fuel source, like the extraterresticles do. Until then, we will NOT be a level one species.

Bill Z Bub

AKA Dr. Machio Kockgu

Oh yeah...Saw/hung out wih Dokken/Lynch for 25 fuggin years. He was awesome, and an inspiration (like Ed) ...but now I'd hand his their asses to them any given day. So I look to players like Loomis and Uli Roth and etc. Life goes on..sometimes leaving your old "heroes" in the dust..WINNING!

[TheTranslator]

I knew George was doing bodybuilding but I didn't know he abusing steroids. You're right, this could have certainly affected his playing. It could be a muscle thing, or even maybe something in his brain that's caused difficulty with playing the way he used to.

LOL...ROTFLOL...Torment Leaves Scars AAS surely could have affected his playing if he used his liver or cock to execute his riffs...lol.

On a more serious note: AAS (androgenic/anabolic steroids) DO NOT have any bearing on physical activities such as playing a guitar. At best, he could suffer a wrist or elbow injury as a result of heavy workout poundage, which would inadvertently affect his playing. Heavy androgens can impair many functions in the human body with excessive abuse - guitar playing not being one of them.

So to all you "cycling" shredders out there; you can pop all the D-bol and Anadrol-50 tabs you want, but don't forget to stack it with Sustanon 250!

*Brett Garsed looks like he could help you on more than just tapping and sweeps lol

[horns666]

Oh yeah again. I miss and love you fuggin assholes...

There's alot of fuggin assholes I don't know yet. It's been along time.

My life's been poop..but who gives a fuck?...right!

Now I'm pulled away by my fuggin', pain-in-the fuggin'-ass godamm wife. This is why I'm NEVER here!!!!.. Fuck her in the ass..fuck her...fuck her...fuck her...in the the ass...oh please fuck her..and fuck me....fuck everbody!!!:dead:

[horns666]

Don advised me and another member Clevo-John (approx 5 years ago) , that George was abusing MUCH more than 'roids....and that he lives right by Eddie Van Halen. Whom he fucks with with his bullhorn..when he's wondering around his yard.

Man, this new format is WONKY!!!

[toejam]

Hey Bill! Where's my lube?

[lerxstcat]

And YouTube is your proof? Gimme a break, dude. Dokken got a new guitarist. One video was posted. George doesn't have the stage anymore, Levin does. Do you really think the sound guy is gonna turn up Lynch's guitar and turn down Levin's? Dokken ain't gonna showcase his old guitarist over his new one, dude.

I don't believe for a second that he can't cut it anymore. If you do, great, but I don't. I listened to "Smoke and Mirrors" last night, and while I don't care for the record itself, I don't see any sign of lacking on the guitar.

There are a boatload of recent videos of George Lynch on Youtube, dude. On some of them he's not bad, on some of them he sucks pretty bad compared to what he once was. I haven't seen anything recent where he approaches the abilities he had at his peak. You are thinking like a fanboy and not with a critical eye or ear. I'm not saying he can't play at all anymore, but I AM saying that Levin definitely annihilates him on his own classic material. I saw him on That Metal Show TRY to play the solo to Tooth and Nail in an outro to a commercial and he was choking trying to do the tapping licks. I am a big fan of Lynch and it was embarrassing to watch! AS for what you hear on Smoke and Mirrors, bear in mind that he could do 100 takes to get those solos. It doesn't mean he can nail any of them live.

[lerxstcat]

i'll tell you what , everyone has always said how similar warren De Martini and george were, are, whatever, but i always thought warren was
a lot tastier than george, and then george actually got tastier as the years went on. i dont know, that's my type of music, something that's catchy with a groove, hooks and a little lightning sprinkled on it. Being the youngest of 8 kids and growing up on a steady diet of everything from zeppelin,and hendrix, to stevie wonder
and funk, i got to love all kinds of music. gotta keep your ears open, or you miss out on some great stuff.

I love all kinds of music too, Tommy. But I think you should be able to play your own stuff properly and not regress and call it returning to your roots. Zeppelin was a different era, and a lot of those 80s metal guys slammed Page on chops - we saw that here a lot a few years back. But Zeppelin was a real product of their times and wrote a lot of great songs. Nothing that Dokken or Lynch Mob ever wrote was AS classic a song as probably 50 Led Zeppelin songs are. After the shred thing started becoming more of a niche, and guys like Lynch realized they couldn't really push themselves to the level of the Vais and Yngwies and Gilberts, they decided to "return to their roots" instead - except that they really DIDN"T have roots in the blues. Guys like Lynch and Jake just weren't as authentic in the bluesy mode - it was totally forced compared to the bands of 10 years prior.

That's just my view as someone who started playing and listening to rock in 1972 and has seen it cycle MANY times. The Cali bluesy metal phase of the second half of the 80s was just fake as hell to me. If you dug it because you were younger, well that is understandable. You want to listen to some real hard bluesy rock, listen to Warren Haynes in his different bands, or Derek Trucks.
That shit is real.

[Torment Leaves Scars]

LOL...ROTFLOL...Torment Leaves Scars AAS surely could have affected his playing if he used his liver or cock to execute his riffs...lol.

On a more serious note: AAS (androgenic/anabolic steroids) DO NOT have any bearing on physical activities such as playing a guitar. At best, he could suffer a wrist or elbow injury as a result of heavy workout poundage, which would inadvertently affect his playing. Heavy androgens can impair many functions in the human body with excessive abuse - guitar playing not being one of them.

So to all you "cycling" shredders out there; you can pop all the D-bol and Anadrol-50 tabs you want, but don't forget to stack it with Sustanon 250!

*Brett Garsed looks like he could help you on more than just tapping and sweeps lol

Didn't I mention it could have damaged his brain in some way from excessive usage of steroids? Yeah, I think I did, didn't I? So, in other words, THAT COULD HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE WAY HE PLAYS THE GUITAR, COULDN'T IT?

You may wanna try reading the next time before posting a smartass remark. Just sayin'.

[lerxstcat]

Didn't I mention it could have damaged his brain in some way from excessive usage of steroids? Yeah, I think I did, didn't I? So, in other words, THAT COULD HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE WAY HE PLAYS THE GUITAR, COULDN'T IT?

You may wanna try reading the next time before posting a smartass remark. Just sayin'.

First of all, you should take your own advice.

Second, what difference does it make why he's slacking? He decided to do 'roids to buff up. That was more important to him than maintaining his guitar skills, so that was his decidion and so the consequences are his fault. It's very simple.

[Torment Leaves Scars]

First of all, you should take your own advice.

Second, what difference does it make why he's slacking? He decided to do 'roids to buff up. That was more important to him than maintaining his guitar skills, so that was his decidion and so the consequences are his fault. It's very simple.

The tip on your shovel's getting pretty dull, but keep digging. Sooner or later, you'll get there!

So, there you have it, "the CONSEQUENCES are his fault. In YOUR words, he STILL isn't slacking. You readily admitted to there possibly being a substantial reason behind your observation that he's "slacking."

The tip on your shovel's getting mighty dull, but, by all means, keep digging; sooner or later, you'll get there!

[TheTranslator]

Didn't I mention it could have damaged his brain in some way from excessive usage of steroids? Yeah, I think I did, didn't I? So, in other words, THAT COULD HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE WAY HE PLAYS THE GUITAR, COULDN'T IT?

You may wanna try reading the next time before posting a smartass remark. Just sayin'.

Yes, I noticed you mentioned the cerebral aspect of roid abuse. However, I found that theory to be so gormless and ill-informed, I didn't find it worthy of debate. FYI, the only psychological effect steroids (especially highly androgenic compounds) have is extreme irritability; kinda like the irritability I'm experiencing from reading your half-baked misconceptions regarding steroid use. Unless you've had personal experience cycling with these drugs, I suggest you keep your feckless opining to yourself and stick to the subject of tapping and sweeping. Perhaps it is YOU who should read-between-the-lines...

[Hellbat]

Hey William,

We miss you spreading your wisdom around here!!!

[horns666]

Haha Hellbro...I was just going to post that shit...fuck yeah!!!

That's what Lynch's face would look like after I give him a good schlackin'. Fuck that fuck..he's cooked!

He'd have a size 11 poop schute, and a face glazed like a fuggin' donut...skeet...skeet!!!

Put him with Loomis for some uberkkake!!!

..or put him with Ed for a special olympic guitar expo or sumthin'..fuggin' crack babies!!

[Torment Leaves Scars]

Yes, I noticed you mentioned the cerebral aspect of roid abuse. However, I found that theory to be so gormless and ill-informed, I didn't find it worthy of debate. FYI, the only psychological effect steroids (especially highly androgenic compounds) have is extreme irritability; kinda like the irritability I'm experiencing from reading your half-baked misconceptions regarding steroid use. Unless you've had personal experience cycling with these drugs, I suggest you keep your feckless opining to yourself and stick to the subject of tapping and sweeping. Perhaps it is YOU who should read-between-the-lines...

Well, that's just too bad. You clearly DO find it worthy of debate, because you keep rambling on about it.

As for the irritability you're experiencing from reading my "half-baked misconceptions regarding steroid use," you can deal with'em...just like Lynch can deal with his "decreased playing ability."

Don't like my opinion, don't read it. Until then, deal with it.