Mustaine lip sync?

[javert]

Actually, the entire sync is a slight bit off in parts. I would speculate due to multiple cameras? Dave is slightly flat (by a hair) on some of his phrasing. (caught a line) ..so its definitely live. Watch Broderick play the first solo, its also slightly off. You can really notice the timing isn't totally sync'd to the audio when he plays the transitioning @ 1:29. Watch it close, the audio is slightly ahead of the positioning changes. The key changes a whole step but his hand hasn't moved yet. The same goes for the two cymbal crashes @ 2:35, the video is like a second off from the audio. Maybe not even a second. Blink and you'd miss it.

They probably only change what they need to. Why would you change Broderick's parts? The guy never makes a mistake. Except when he slipped on the wet stage at the end of the Tornado of Souls solo at Copenhell two years ago As for the sync, that can happen in multiple ways without any foul play

[charvelguy]

I'm saying the whole show is live. The entire sync is off for most of, if not all of the video. You can see it in Dave's chord changes in the very first 10 seconds as well as the drummers beat @ .16 relative to the audio, but I believe the audio is from that show.

[Newc]

I know Alive and Alive II were dubbed. That's what I was saying: just because the synch is off doesn't mean it was done like those.

[Twitch]

My old band, live video, overdubbed with studio track. Damn near perfect sync, but it is over dubbed. Why, cause live audio recorded from a video camera sucks. Did we really play that night, hell yes, but that video is not what the crowd heard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9C1r9GDayo

[javert]

I'm saying the whole show is live. The entire sync is off for most of, if not all of the video. You can see it in Dave's chord changes in the very first 10 seconds as well as the drummers beat @ .16 relative to the audio, but I believe the audio is from that show.

I haven't watched the show in a long time, so I'm not going to say one way or the other. I only remember noticing the sound was quite different from previous live recordings by Megadeth. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of live shows released today have been altered.

[ZZB]

Still, I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of live shows released today have been altered.

This. Or the majority of live shows released in the last 30 years...

Besides, what you see in a live release is more often than not material from several shows. Plus close-up stage shots are often done in advance. And so on. Expecting live DVD performances in a live concert is just setting yourself up for a disappointment.

[Rich#6]

A few years back Dave slammed britnney spears and madonna for lip sync. I doubt he would start doing it himself.

[sambencuda]

If you compare the link I posted with almost any other live Megadeth performance before or after that 2008 Blood in the Water show. you can hear that its way to perfect. I mean compare with your ears only. I am talking vocals only. Listen to him talking to the crowd at the end. his voice sounds entirely different. And don't tell me that it's because he's not as processed for talking as he is when singing. I have no opinion on the music. I don't have a hard time believing that that group of guys could sound that tight. I'm telling you that vocal is tracked. Dave hasn't sounded that good in a long long time. I'd take rough around the edges Megadeth any day to the week over the perfect, overdubbed, filled in, tracked or whatever they hell they did Megadeth. The beauty of Megadeth has always been in the performance wether it's live or in the studio. I still call bullshit. that track is canned.

[Nightbat]

The problem is, it's like steroids in sports. Whether it's wrong or not, those who remain "clean" can't compete.

Sorry, I don't give a damn about competing, if you're standing in line for 3 hours and paying $60 to be squashed by 7000 other lunatics, I'd expect the fucker on stage to work for his money

an album is cheaper, and I don't need to travel 2 hours and wait 5 before I can finally listen to/see the act I want to see/hear for a flawless performance

[Trem]

The live version of Gears of War that they played at the Gears of War release sounds great. I kept the video, i think it has that urgency that it may even sound better than the album version.
Anyway it sounds great and it is live 100%.

Many singers by mid tour can begin to loose their voice a bit, age also comes into play. Some are gifted with an iron throat, but not most, and we are human after all. You know when they start having the crowd sing the choruses as much as possible And it's smart to do, they have to do it for a few thousand the next night too, and the crowd should be involved anyway.

Someone else mentioned it, and one thing is for sure Vince Neil could never sing worth a shit live, i mean AT ALL. Not in 1985 and certainly not now

[RacerX]

Here's the full vid of Blood In The Water:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zMP3m98A18&

[Codex]

Either in that SD show or the That One Night show, there's a part where Dave is coming off of a solo and holding on to a single note and then you hear the audio of him sliding down the neck on the E but the video he's still holding the high note. They totally go in and touch things up (or completely rerecord the damn show).

[Trem]

Here's the full vid of Blood In The Water:

Never seen that one.
It's been vocally touched up and ultra mixed for sure all around. The musical performance is excellent, i do prefer the true sound of live on a live show though, it's too slick.
One things for sure, he's still one of the best on the planet at what he does and laughably owning Metallica. A comment someone made somewhere else "he can't write riffs like that anymore" is lol worthy.

[horns666]

Megadeth RULES!!! Top notch musicianship and writing. ..ehhh Metallica..not so much.

...Metallica...fuggums!!!

[Rsmacker]

Blood in your poo, more like. He whines like a worn out Rampant Rabbit.

They should make purely LIVE Lps like they used to in the Good Old Days. Like "Unleashed in the East" for example.