Jake E. Lee looking to get back in the fold...

[Endrik]

But this lil teeny boppin' chick plays Jake's stuff EFFORTLESSY..

She's not so teeny, she's Parisian which means she's been on steady diet of ham and butter which makes the face look young but body "developed" in certain parts.

[Nightbat]

She's not so teeny, she's Parisian which means she's been on steady diet of ham and butter which makes the face look young but body "developed" in certain parts.

In other words: She's legal?

[toejam]

Well both of those clips were aweful. Totally crappy songs, a chick drummer who looks like a guy, a legendary bass player/guitar player Johnny Rocker that I have never heard of and Jake E Lee. I wonder how they got their contract??? Thanks Jake.

Yeah, I know the clips are awful, but at least he's back out there doing something. Jake was always my favorite Ozzy guitarist, and I loved Badlands.

[tonemonster]

If Eddie could make a comeback, so can Jake. .

when did Eddie make a comeback?

[ulijdavid]

The George Lynch and Jake E Lee bashing over the past couple of months confuses me a little. When George and Jake were delivering the goods in the 80's they were considered two of the most talented guitarists. Without those guys, I believe a lot of guitarists (alot probably on this forum) wouldn't be around or still playing today. I respect both of their playing back in the day. I was never a huge fanboy of either, but still found their styles to be quite unique in a sea of copycats at the time. The way I see it, these guys were like the masters of the time and most of us tried to emulate or surpass them. Many (most) of the newer guitarists have surpassed them. But the bashing is kind of like becoming better than the guys that taught you and then bashing them even though they were the ones that taught and pushed you to become your best. It would be like Archie Manning teaching Peyton and Eli how to be the best quarterbacks and then both Peyton and Eli making fun of their Dad's past accomplishments because their careers and accomplishments have surpassed his. You may say that Archie realized his days are over and doesn't try to relive his past - I understand that. But, I think everyone should look down at their waistline and realize that none of us are what we use to be.

With that stated, Uli still kicks ass!!!

[tonemonster]

Its all about opinion. While Jake and George were amazing at one time, they are a fraction of what they used to be. I dont know why, but they are. I mean just listen to the stuff that George puts out, or what he plays live. its pure guitar nonsense, its not even music. most 13 yr old kids on youtube kick his ass on his own material. it just shouldnt be that way when you are a professional. Its not like they are pro atheletes when your body gets beat up, and tired out, etc... I mean there are some musicians that just kick ass today as they did 30 yrs ago, but George just fell apart. I used to idolize him, now I dont think I would walk across the street to get his autograph. he is basically living off of a 25 yr old reputation. what has he put out musically that is worthy of mention since 1993? nothing. its a damn shame, but its the way it is.

[Nightbat]

the bashing is kind of like becoming better than the guys that taught you and then bashing them even though they were the ones that taught and pushed you to become your best.

Though I'm not in the bashing camp (my 'idols' are other guitarists of the time), I think I should point out, it's not that the 'next generation' has become better
The general consensus is that the aforementioned heroes became worse

whether that's true I'll leave in the middle, but what I do know is, in music to become a legend, it's best to die in your prime
If you don't, you'll get old and rusty and people will consider you 'washed up' and 'hasbeen', but as Tonemonster mentioned: there are older guys than George or Jake still ripping it up like they did 30 years ago

[CowboyFromHell]

The George Lynch and Jake E Lee bashing over the past couple of months confuses me a little. When George and Jake were delivering the goods in the 80's they were considered two of the most talented guitarists. Without those guys, I believe a lot of guitarists (alot probably on this forum) wouldn't be around or still playing today. I respect both of their playing back in the day. I was never a huge fanboy of either, but still found their styles to be quite unique in a sea of copycats at the time. The way I see it, these guys were like the masters of the time and most of us tried to emulate or surpass them. Many (most) of the newer guitarists have surpassed them. But the bashing is kind of like becoming better than the guys that taught you and then bashing them even though they were the ones that taught and pushed you to become your best. It would be like Archie Manning teaching Peyton and Eli how to be the best quarterbacks and then both Peyton and Eli making fun of their Dad's past accomplishments because their careers and accomplishments have surpassed his. You may say that Archie realized his days are over and doesn't try to relive his past - I understand that. But, I think everyone should look down at their waistline and realize that none of us are what we use to be.

With that stated, Uli still kicks ass!!!

While I agree with you in theory for the most part, there comes a time when you have to realize that if you ain't got it like you used to you shouldn't be out there still doing it, tarnishing the mark you left on the world back in your day. As far as looking at myself and realizing that "I" ain't want I used to be... I (don't pass out when I say this, guys) have to side with jgcable on this one. I'm 43 now and since busting my ass to get over an injury that had been slowing the response in one of the fingers on my left hand, I'm better than I ever was. Not all of us have went downhill as we got older. I'm actually in the process now of working with a new drummer, getting him used to our way of doing things and am blessed enough to have the label that originally signed us pick us up once again with our new lineup. With all the "growing" I've done since our previous 3 CDs I'm looking forward to doing some new original stuff.

[GuerillaPete]

Let's just wait and see what comes to light. We may love it. We may hate it. We may never hear it.

[metalchurch79]

I'm happy to hear that he is doing ok. Wonder who his vocalist will be?

[jgcable]

The George Lynch and Jake E Lee bashing over the past couple of months confuses me a little. When George and Jake were delivering the goods in the 80's they were considered two of the most talented guitarists. Without those guys, I believe a lot of guitarists (alot probably on this forum) wouldn't be around or still playing today. I respect both of their playing back in the day. I was never a huge fanboy of either, but still found their styles to be quite unique in a sea of copycats at the time. The way I see it, these guys were like the masters of the time and most of us tried to emulate or surpass them. Many (most) of the newer guitarists have surpassed them. But the bashing is kind of like becoming better than the guys that taught you and then bashing them even though they were the ones that taught and pushed you to become your best. It would be like Archie Manning teaching Peyton and Eli how to be the best quarterbacks and then both Peyton and Eli making fun of their Dad's past accomplishments because their careers and accomplishments have surpassed his. You may say that Archie realized his days are over and doesn't try to relive his past - I understand that. But, I think everyone should look down at their waistline and realize that none of us are what we use to be.

With that stated, Uli still kicks ass!!!

I would say in the looks department.. sure...everybody gets older but in the playing department there is no excuse. Les Paul kicked major ass up into his late 80's. Look at Uli Jon Roth. The guys even better than he was in the 70's.

[Trem]

Here's why those guys were so awesome in the 80's.

Cocaine.

And the reason they suck now...

Cocaine.

Ah, i jest....sorta....

One thing i think that made those guys play the way they did way back then imo, is competition. For a fleeting moment in time they played better than their "normal" capabilities, because of the massive amount of competition out there. It was a time when the music was hot, the girls were hot, everything was BIG and excessive, the chance at super fame and money and all that, it created a hunger. Hunger makes people rise above their normal capabilities, competition makes people rise above their normal capabilities. Once that hunger is satisfied to a point, people get lazy.

However, the guys that were natural forces of nature continued to still get better, and survived. Their moment wasn't fleeting because they still have that hunger, it is part off them, it is natural.
They also avoided the excess because it was just a by product, it didn't consume them. Their main focus was the music, and the desire to continue to excel at their craft.
Paul Gilbert, Steve Via, Akira Takasaki, et all....all the names from that time still around doing it and that continue the quest to be the best they can be, for themselves no one else.

[Endrik]

Some older players are hit and miss when they choose to... sounds weird but it's true. Steve Lukather is a good example. Dude has recorded thousands of records... a lot of stuff with one take. He is a perfectionists when he does session work. But on his own or just jamming with other folks... different story... I don't know what stuff he was on... mostly booze for sure... some personal problems going on and whatnot.... often he just goes into some random wankfest mode but he never does it when he is working for other people.

But a lot worse is when I see amazing session players who are in incredibly good shape playing horrible crap on their spare time. Like producing garbage on daily basis for music biz' isn't enough, they choose to play retarded music on solo too. Cheesy safe new age "blues" or smooth "jazz" for suburban house wives. Even the guys who I respect do it. Get the fuck outta here!
Michael Landau, different story, he as recorded ridiculous amounts of crap for other people but when he goes solo it's amazing. Dude plays with such authority, just incredible tone, power and dynamics and the sound is HUGE!

As far as players from newer generation go... much crappier level of musicianship. Incredible how many players who are considered good don't know anything about dynamics, rhythm and tone. Pretty much reflects the overall trend in music - safe, conservative and polished, I hope this will change soon.

[jgcable]

Basically, for me.. I don't have much respect for famous iconic players who let their ability slip away whether it be from substance abuse, lack of playing, or whatever. There are so many monster players from the 80's who are still monster players and many of them have been mentioned in the responses above. There are also many monster players from the 80's who just flat out suck now. Thats sad. They can't write anymore, they can't play anymore.

[SausageofPower]

Basically, for me.. I don't have much respect for famous iconic players who let their ability slip away whether it be from substance abuse, lack of playing, or whatever. There are so many monster players from the 80's who are still monster players and many of them have been mentioned in the responses above. There are also many monster players from the 80's who just flat out suck now. Thats sad. They can't write anymore, they can't play anymore.

Or, in terms of Lynch, having a kickass tone in the day and then sounding like shit these days 90% of the time. I mean, there's one video of Lynch Mob's set from a show not too long ago on YouTube. George is playing a Les Paul Gold Top (WTF?), running way too many effects that just sound like ass and his playing is subpar. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j_yLLqZKg4). Which is sad because just a few weeks prior he'd been playing fairly decently with Brian Tichy handling drum duties (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=339Bexcmjyw, though George was dressed like some horrible gay porn/The Road Warrior extra at the beginning of the set).

Man, I love the guy in his prime, and occasionally his current material catches my ear...but man, I dunno what the hell happened...