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  • #16
    Re: Frank Marino

    I've always heard about Frank but have never heard his stuff. And now that Bill mentions it, Uli is another guitarist that is supposed to be so awesome but I haven't heard his stuff. What would be some a good album from each of these guys for someone new to them?
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    • #17
      Re: Frank Marino

      I don't know about ULI, I've never gotten into him either, but Frank marino and Mahagony Rush Live (their 1rst one) is unbelievable stuff, and the newest live 2cd set that I referenced at the top of this threat "Real Live" is really good stuff.
      I need a good Uli album to pick up as well.
      If this is our perdition, will you walk with me?

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      • #18
        Re: Frank Marino

        Frank Marino is one of the greatest live-music artists of the last 30 years, and all three of his live albums are must-haves:
        --Mahogany Rush Live
        --Double Live
        --Real Live

        All three are total jam-fests. Of the three, I probably still like Double Live the best, even though Real Live is amazing. Double Live has a very nice selection of material from Frank's late '70s-early '80s albums, when he got away from his more Hendrix-ish early songwriting style. I haven't had enough time to fully absorb Real Live in order to 'place' it, as such. But all three albums are essential. I also love Juggernaut among Frank's studio albums. It came out in 1982, and was his last major-label album--it also had his only real radio hit: "Strange Dreams".

        As for Uli, I think a beginner should start with the "Transcendental Sky Guitar" album that came out a couple of years ago. It's a double-cd set that combinations studio guitar instrumentals with some live tracks that Uli recorded on the European G3 tour that he did several years ago. TSG features more guitar, fewer of his umm, 'interesting' vocals, and less of the cosmic weirdness than you find on his studio stuff. Of course, you can go back and get his live album with the Scorpions, "Tokyo Tapes", but I never thought he fit in well with the Scorps of that era--it would be like Hendrix trying to fit into Bad Company, or something like that.

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        • #19
          Re: Frank Marino

          Anybody hear the solo on "Ditch Queen"? it sounds like the guy has 4 hands on the fretboard...totally shredding.

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          • #20
            Re: Frank Marino

            I second Pro's choice for the Uli intitiation..TSG is amazing...

            and yes he was quite bored with the scorpions musical format...but he did some unbelievable stuff with that band...my favorite Scrops material ever...check out his solos to stuff like Sails Of Charon or Catch Your Train...and that was way before the likes of EVH or Yngwie..and in hindsight those two couldn't polish his shoes IMO..

            as a matter of fact the name of the artwork on his first solo disc "earthquake" is titled "Rising Force"..so there ya go.. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

            I emailed Frank about eight years ago..and he responded ...I basically told him that he was truly under-rated and never recieve the recognition he derserves..

            I told him that he should release those three 80's albums that I mentioned above...then shortly after that conversation...all three were...and I bought them!

            My all time favorite Frank Marino album is the Live 1978...it's the epitome of who he is..he had the speed and fire of Zakk...who was a big influence on him as well...that's obvious...Zakk likes to use the same licks..just with a lot more squeals..and he had the feel finess of Uli..

            but Uli just takes the cake ..he is to me the perfect guitarist...I never heard better...not to this very day..I think Marty Freidman would agree....he is the only one that ALWAYS gave Uli the props!

            I would say that Eric Johnson definitley listened to Marino...but his influence is more blatant in Zakk Wylde and John Sykes to me..
            "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
            Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

            "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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            • #21
              Re: Frank Marino

              That 1978 live album is the best, I wore out that whole "who do you love ?" jam a couple of times when I had it on vinyl.
              Frank Marino and Robin Trower both never got the exposure they deserved. (I'm showing my age ) [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Trower was another one that kicked ass live.
              If this is our perdition, will you walk with me?

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              • #22
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                Dude ,absolutely! I had the vinyl , the cassette and the freakin' 8 track..I owned four 8 track tapes.. Iron Maiden "killers" , VH I and II , and ...ladies and gentlemen , won't you please welcome ..Frank Marino and Mahogany Russshhhhhhhhhh..

                who do ya love jam into electric reflections of war is deeply carved into my ass...and my ass's ass.

                just as eruption..

                then of course both of us we're diggin' the likes of Gary Moore "corridoors of POWER!!!".. and Michael Schenker..

                now those are some damn good players..

                Sounds like we come from the same school...Cleveland John too...I knew John when we both were into Frank Marino.. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
                "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
                Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

                "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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                • #23
                  Re: Frank Marino

                  Oh Ya, Corridors of Power and Bridge of Sighs.
                  Wore those two out as well.
                  ahhhhhh the good old days when guitarists actually ripped.
                  If this is our perdition, will you walk with me?

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                  • #24
                    Re: Frank Marino

                    [ QUOTE ]
                    I would say that Eric Johnson definitley listened to Marino...but his influence is more blatant in Zakk Wylde and John Sykes to me..

                    [/ QUOTE ]

                    I also think that Marino might have been an influence on a certain guy with the initials "SRV"...

                    As far as Eric Johnson goes, I suppose it's possible he was influenced by Marino, but I don't know...EJ recorded his fusion album with the Electromagnets in 1974, and he already pretty much sounded like he does today. I think EJ just falls into the category of "freakishly talented original"! A lot like Marino that way, actually...

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                    • #25
                      Re: Frank Marino

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                      Trower was another one that kicked ass live.

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                      Even though I'm not old enough to have seen Robin live in the '70s, he was a BIG influence on me at one point. I saw him in the late '80s at a small club in Eugene, Oregon, where I stood about five feet away from him almost eye-to-eye, and could look down at the setlist the singer had taped to his monitor. Kind of sad that Robin was playing at a place like that, but he still put on a monster show. He was pretty much the "anti-shredder", but wow, his taste and use of space are fantastic, and that sound he gets... [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]

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                      • #26
                        Re: Frank Marino

                        Uli rocks too! And, that's cool about the Frank thing. Did you have any influence on the release of those 80's albums? Even if it was minimal, that's way cool!

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                        • #27
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                          I don't know if my message to Frank inspired a re-issue of his 80s stuff..

                          maybe ..along with with a few more groupies I would guess.. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

                          Eric Johnson..I saw him back in early 90. It was the first time I saw him..ah via musicom wasn't out yet...I didn't even own "Tones" at the time....it was before I saw him smoke on Austin City Limits..just like SRV did..

                          I just remember there wasn't that many folks there at the show but those who were was floored ...and always I make my enthusiasm known..which seemed to amuse him ..I remeber him laughing...because I kept screamimng stuff about my balls..that I lost em' , or shattered ...or they're in my socks...words of enthusiasm..

                          I was an instant EJ nut...then I saw him years later and he seemed to have lost that fire ...put down that semi-hollow and grab that 56 strat and shred!

                          he's a great player but he lost me after ah via..

                          one of the best players I have seen live was Steve Stevens...man that dude is incredible...flamenco to sick two handed arpeggios...he's EVH on LSD and steroids..and he knows good tone...he could easily be an Ozzy guitarist.. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

                          There is so many great players ...it's a shame they get ignored and never make those ignorant popularity polls of the likes Guitar World and Rolling Stone..

                          No...over there we get Tom Morello , Wes Borland and those tools from Korn.

                          at Guitar World we get Munky ...but No Uli..yet people don't seem to mind or notice..

                          I do..I think a lot of us do..
                          "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
                          Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

                          "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Frank Marino

                            Steve Stevens is awsome, his stuff on the latest Derek Sherinian's album is badass. Also, I think he is one of the biggest Jeff Beck fans on the earth.
                            "There is nothing more fearful than imagination without taste" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

                            "To be stupid, selfish and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost" - Gustave Flaubert

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                            • #29
                              Re: Frank Marino

                              I first found out about Frank watching Don Kershner's show. They had Frank and Mahogany Rush playing Strange Universe
                              (which I see is in the March Guitar One mag). I was completely blown away and started buy every record I could get my hands on. I later saw Frank and Mahogany Rush at Winterland in San Fran - must have been the latter 70's, don't remember for sure, but it was an incredible show. Frank's performance was absolutely staggering.

                              My favorite Frank solos are from the song Madness on Maxoom and the outro on Tales of a Spanish Warrior from Strange Universe.
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                              • #30
                                Re: Frank Marino

                                I have a video of Mahogany Rush live from 1979 and it is awesome. I saw Frank on that same tour open up for Kansas in Pittsburgh. He really was unbelievable.

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