dave mustaine vs kirk hammet

[kruneh]

Re: dave mustaine vs kirk hammet

But listen to the riffs guys, compare the lame Enter Sandman riff to Ashes in your mouth, WHOA, **** off Kirk.

[kuerbo]

Re: dave mustaine vs kirk hammet

I don't think Mustaine has an impressive technique. I mean, almost everything he does is just speed picking over single notes. I like the songs though, but he's been repeating himself for a loooong time by now.

[toejam]

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But listen to the riffs guys, compare the lame Enter Sandman riff to Ashes in your mouth, WHOA, **** off Kirk.

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Kirk never wrote any of the old riffs anyway. James played rhythm guitar, by himself, on every album until the black album. I'm not even sure if Kirk really did play on that one either. James wrote everything and told Kirk to play solos only.

[Tekky]

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Let's see...unique solo style from someone who helped define the genre, versus a Satch clone. Not a very hard decision, is it?

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If Kirk Hamster is a Satch clone, then we have irrefutable proof that the cloning is horribly wrong.

[toejam]

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Steve Vai is a Satch clone.

[Grandturk]

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I freely admit that Rust in Peace is one of my favorite discs of all time - that said, I can't say I think much of anything else Megadeth has put out. So from that perspective, I'd much rather have Kirk in Metallica than Dave... though it really doesn't matter now, anyway.

[noodlesatf]

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Kirk may have more impressive technique, but his solos sound like they come out of a theory book. He plays almost everything in minor pentatonic and natural minor, never grabbing notes out of the scale. Everything just sounds bland and the same. Meanwhile, Dave has talked about fiddling with stuff until it sounds right to him, regardless of whether it is in a scale or not. Kirk just strikes me as someone who has a ton of chops without a unique style, while Dave created a unique style with the limited knowledge he has.

[No Use]

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wow, no shitstorms yet? some people can get really riled over this.

my opinion? i like 'em both for what they do, but i always loved Megadeth, as opposed with being ok with Metallica.

[1trussell]

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Steve Vai is a Satch clone.

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That, my firend, is a great untruth. Vai is incredibly unique and has a completely different style than Satch.

Back on topic, I don't think that Kirk is a Satch clone either. Just because the dude took lessons from Satch 20 some years ago, doesn't mean that they have the same style, feel, sense of melody, etc. Now, I never was a huge fan of Dave's solos when compared to Marty. Dave just seemed to meander a little too much for my taste. His rhythm playing is some of the best I've ever heard, but I thought he lacked the melodic style that made Marty stand out so much. Back to Kirk, lay off the wah, man.

[Tetsuo]

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Well, I do think Dave is a better technical player than Kirk but Hammett was a huge insiration to me, in the 80's, because he was so melodic. Kirk had that Schenker vibe to his playing that Mustaine always aspired to but never achieved.

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Dave really has no idea what he's doing on the guitar, technically. He even admitted it himself recently and said he started taking lessons, asked the teacher to start from the beginning. The guy thought he was nuts. While Dave said he "knew" how to play, he was self-taught and didn't know theory or really the "correct" way to play.
I think Kirk is a much better lead player, he's taken lessons from Joe Satriani, and Satch has said he was one of his best students. I do really like Mustaine and his style, but I've always felt Kirk was the better lead player, Dave was the better rhythm player, much like James. Also, how can anyone not like Kirk... he's got no ego whatsoever. [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img] That being said, I've always kinda preferred Megadeth a little more over Metallica.

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Good Post

Mustaine is without question the better song writer but I don't think he has a better technique than Kirk... In all fairness we have never heard what Kirk can really do and never will as long as he is a member of Metallica. I think Kirk's reason for going to Berkley and Joe was to brush up on theory not so much technique and that was right in the transition time from Exodus to Metallica he did that right?

[toejam]

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Steve Vai is a Satch clone.

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That, my firend, is a great untruth. Vai is incredibly unique and has a completely different style than Satch.


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Steve's style may be different, but his sound is exactly the same. He definitely was influenced a lot by Satch by being one of his students. While I certainly own more Vai albums than Satch albums, I've had a hard time telling who was who on a lot of things.

[Tetsuo]

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Steve Vai, Stach, and Vai have so little to do with each other style wise it is silly...

My post came in before Toe Jams... I don't see it really at all.. To me Vai really doesn't sound anything at all like Satch. Joe couldn't touch Vai's trem work.

[Tekky]

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Vai learned the basics from Satch, but the rest is Zappa.

[noodlesatf]

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That is because Steve showed up with all those chops, and Frank told him he sucked and needed to learn how to play music, not guitar. Vai has said in interviews that he is eternally grateful for that brutal honesty of Frank's.

[1trussell]

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Well, Zappa also told Vai that his tone sucked as well.

And Mr. Toe, I might add that if you can't tell the difference between Vai and Satch, then you sir need to pay more attention. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]