while I'm at it, what's the deal with nevermore?

[hippietim]

i've never heard their stuff. i've read about them here and in guitar mags. please describe.

[noodlesatf]

Re: while I\'m at it, what\'s the deal with nevermor

Thrash meets power metal on 7-strings with amazing composed guitar solos. The singer sounds like a meaner Geoff Tate an octave down. Absolutely amazing stuff, and this description is selling short and extremely talented, versatile band filled with ambitious song writers who don't know how to spell the word "genre".

[Top Jimmy B]

Re: while I\'m at it, what\'s the deal with nevermore?

Try the newest cd first and then go on from there. I found the singer was the biggest obstacle for me, up until this album. He sounds a bit like Geoff Tate on the slower songs and has a unique way with melody. Take that any way you like. lol

Loomis is really good, a little wanky at times but you can hear the control he has over the instrument. His solos on the new disc seem to serve the songs better than on the older stuff.

The drummer is a monster, plain and simple.

Up until I bought This Godless Endeavor, I really didn't "get" Nevermore. Now I do.

[GodOfRhythm]

Re: while I\'m at it, what\'s the deal with nevermor

Some cool instrumental things going on (eventhough they do not appeal to me) and a singer/lyrics that could go head-to-head with any korny (pun) nu-metal band in an angst-joust.

[toejam]

Re: while I\'m at it, what\'s the deal with nevermor

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Thrash meets power metal on 7-strings with amazing composed guitar solos. The singer sounds like a meaner Geoff Tate an octave down.

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Their older stuff is 6-strings tuned a half-step down. The newer stuff is 7-strings still tuned a half-step down. And Warrel Dane can still sing pretty high when he wants to, he just chooses not to nowadays.
Check out their first band, Sanctuary, who put out two albums in the '80s (lotsa high falsetto singing). The first album, Refuge Denied (1987?), was produced by Dave Mustaine who discovered them, and Dave even played the solo on their cover of Jefferson's Airplane's White Rabbit. The second album, Into The Mirror Black, came out in '89, was even better. Jeff Loomis was in the band for a few months before they broke up due to their drummer and one of the other guitar players wanting to do the grunge thing since it was getting so popular in the early '90s (and the one guitar player had the rights to the band name). Bass player Jim Sheppard, Warrel Dane and Jeff Loomis decided to stick with metal and not follow the grunge crap that was happening in Seattle and formed Nevermore. [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]

[hippietim]

Re: while I\'m at it, what\'s the deal with nevermor

Are the vocals Sesame Street based?

[toejam]

Re: while I\'m at it, what\'s the deal with nevermor

Nope. Check out their website for some audio and video clips. http://www.nevermore.tv/downloads.php

[hippietim]

Re: while I\'m at it, what\'s the deal with nevermor

kick ass. thanks. off to amazon i go...

[toejam]

Re: while I\'m at it, what\'s the deal with nevermor

Cool! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Venomboy]

Re: while I\'m at it, what\'s the deal with nevermor

I bought This Godless Endeavor a few weeks ago. The first 2 times I listened to it I didn't like it. Now it's grown on me. I might pick up some of their earlier stuff.

[horns666]

Re: while I\'m at it, what\'s the deal with nevermor

Listen to these guys Tim..

Warrel Dane is one of my favorite lyricist of all time and he's a great singer IMO..I love 'em

and Jeff Loomis has been my favorite metal guitarist for the last 8 years or so...

I got to kno wthese guys pretty well by being a fan of their early on and hang with them at the smaller shows some years back..

One of my very favorite bands of all time..there is only ONE Nevermore..

I wouldn't compare Warrel voice too much to Tate's..maybe a little in range but not in style and tone...he has a style all his own..just as distinguisable as Tate , Halford , Dio and etc...

and like someone mention..his range was insane of his Sanctuary stuff..He hits the high notes in Battel Angels live..but they are tuned down lower...but he still sounds great..

It was Nevermore's goal years ago to bring back the "guitar solo" that has been missing in hard music for a very long time..I guy like Loomis can do that!

I say get the new TGE and if you like it..then start from their first s/t and work your way up.. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[pro-fusion]

Re: while I\'m at it, what\'s the deal with nevermor

I've been on a BIG Nevermore kick lately, but I admit that it took awhile for their music to grow on me, also. The first time I heard Enemies of Reality (the current album when I first heard them), it was a total headscratcher.

The best word to describe their music is "dense." There is a LOT going on in every song, but they are incredibly well-composed, from the riffs and solos to the lyrics, which are intelligent and interesting. But like a lot of intelligent music, it takes awhile to sink in.

[ChickenScratch]

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I never got the power metal comparisons with Nevermore. The way I see them is thrash/prog with a lot of emotion thrown in. I get the same feeling listening to Nevermore as I do Evergrey is that helps, really powerfull stuff that goes straight for the heart that is also very advanced technically (where Evergrey tends to hold back at times). Also you can spend months listening to each song because there's just always so much stuff going on in the playing, lyrics, how everything ties together and little magical things that happen that you don't notice for a long time.

The new album I think is the best album of the year so far, in fact every time Nevermore puts out an album I think it's the best album of that year. My only gripe is that Steve Smyth is not given more solo space, but then it's his first album with them.

[hippietim]

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Bill - I did listen. I ordered two discs of theirs today. The samples on the web site kick ass. I love that shit.

[Endrik]

Re: while I\'m at it, what\'s the deal with nevermor

Nevermore's last album is HEAVYILY influenced of Queensryche, vocal melodys, chorus melodys/chord progressions etc.