Possibly most impressive technical playing ever.

[gemini8026]

Re: Possibly most impressive technical playing eve

Saw it watched it, had a lark.


BUT.......


To date....


I have NEVER..

SEEEN


ANYTHING



That can compare to the Shawn Lane videos. I've watched a LOT of videos, and own a nice little collection. Not many people have ever seen the Lane videos, but it's right on par with this stuff, except TECHNICAL. Insane finger stetches, String skipping, etc, etc, etc.

Honestly makes me cringe whenever I play it. Also, Shawn DOESNT look at his guitar when he plays, he just has an empty stare and plays notes at a rate that I cant even IMAGINE playing.

As for his music, well, he isnt the most exciting instrumentalist, but easily the most impressive videos. Done believe me, go on Winmx or Emule and download his 2 videos (buy them after to support the good cause)

This guy isnt well known, but is the most impressive/technical guitarist ive witnessed in my life.



P - S ID like to see the guy in the posted video incorporate that solo into a song :s

P - P - S - it also isnt too hard to speed up a video without people knowing it's fake. Adobe offers some cool plugions thatr would suprise you!!!

[sevser]

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This guy got back to me...He is working on an instructional video for http://www.chopsfromhell.com/

[horns666]

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And Shawn lane was NEVER on the cover of GW..his talent was NOT promoted ot appreciated because it wasn't "marketable"..

NO you MUST be in a spoon fed pop band icon to make that piece of shit. [img]/images/graemlins/eyes.gif[/img]

[jjw]

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LOL so another shreddder on chops from hell,soon all the vids there will sound the same
I have shawn lanes power lines vid and that geezer was so fast-and his lines were more than just scales.realy good musician

[Endrik]

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Shawn Lane had amazing technique, he was one of the fastest players but when he recorded his music, it was melodic and emotinal not chops clinique.

[shredmonster]

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The issue I think becomes speed itself. This is pretty cool to see for about the first 20 seconds. But it does not matter what you play if the notes go by so fast they have no tone, no expression. The player at that point becomes mechanical and not musical.

I think this type of speed can be used in certain circumstances and the right spots but to base a whole style on that is down right boring because all you hear are maching gun notes with no charactor. You can't hear the difference between a Cmaj7 arp and D7 arp at these speeds.

To be fast to the extreme you have to practice speed above all else, sacraficing other skills in the process in Most Cases. But I would bet this guy has practiced his ass off on nothing but this one aspect.

I have thought about this a lot over the years. IMHO the way to go is to have a whole arsenal of technique - a Uli Roth approach. The ultimate way to play that I like is to have a guy that has it all down - speed, vibrato, tone, articulation, tricks, melody, etc...

Interesting playing should be the number one factor along with originality in my opinion. Expression and emotion. Make it sound mean, haunting, sad. Have a variety of sounds under your control. This is the ability to evoke a lot of sounds out of the guitar causing you to be expressive, eminating emotion to the listener.

Some of my favs are Uli and Schenker. They have the ability to vary what they do. They have control over their sound. They have killer tone from their fingers not their equipment. They have vibrato to die for and you can hear their personality come through their playing. And neither one is as fast as Rusty Cooley or this guy but few players can make a guitar sound better or meaner than Roth or Schenker (OK Yngwie is in there too as well as some others - I can't think of them all!).

You can spend all your time being fast or you can spend your time developing your skills to where your personality comes through your instrument and the sound coming from you is interesting and keeps the listener wanting to hear more. This guy could be one of many of the current speedsters and no one could tell the difference. But you know when you hear Uli Roth or Michael Schenker or Yngwie.

[Rupe]

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RIP

[horns666]

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"But you know when you hear Uli Roth or Michael Schenker or Yngwie."

That's NO lie.. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/toast.gif[/img]

[Incster]

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Hey, I've found a song about that:

Ron Thal - I can't play the blues (Hermit)

And he plays pretty fast too.

[horns666]

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I can't play the blues to save my life. Too touchy feely for my style.

I like to listen to great blues players.

But I purely a metal hack..

I have two speeds Fast and Faster.. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Learn Guitars]

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Ug.... Fast fingers...Bet his wife loves him. Anyways. Technically killer. Emotionally misses the mark completely. I dont know why he has obsessed on speed for all those years to totally miss what expressive dynamic playing is all about. Personally, I couldn't take more than one song. Luck if I could get through anything longer than that video actually.
Don't get me wrong, The guy deserves credit for his NPM stature. But jeeesesssss. Is it really nessecary.

[hippietim]

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The Shawn Lane comparisons are interesting. This dude is nothing like Shawn. This guy is ripping for sure but it's very unsophisticated musically. Shawn was ripping AND extremely sophisticated and tasteful.

[sevser]

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Well we also heard a lot more from Shawn Lane...Only 30 seconds from this guy.

That kind of speed could be used very effectively in bursts to build up towards a climatic finish.

Ex) John Sykes solo on "Still of the Night" That SOB just rips it up with every thing he hads, then hits the 22nd fret for the finally! Classic edge of your seat shit!

This is just like when Yngwie came on the scene...Every guitarist said he had no emotion and just played scales…That’s because no one could yet fathom what he was doing.

Becker played with major technical speed and still had emotion.

Take it for what it is already...A "demonstration" of speed.

Think outside the box. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[cookiemonster2]

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I like how his hand looks like it is floating over the strings. But like everyone else says here speed is only one tool that can be used to make a good solo.

[markb]

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How the crap do you measure "notes per second"??? I don't think its a very common measuring system...you never hear it in interviews etc.

This is just a practice excercise, criticizing it for "lack of emotion" is retarded. See it for what it is.

But even so...if you want to learn to be fast, you have to pay fast all the time. Its such a time investment. Joe Pass and others would have their students learn to improvise at 8th notes or less. They did this to allow time to really hear the harmonic interchange of the notes over the chords and learn to work the scales and arps into a musical statement. And seriously, that takes a long time too. Years. There are many superfast players who cannot spare that time. It is valid to say they are deficient harmonically, that their playing is flat. They don't have time to spare from their technical prcatice. It makes sense.
Rusty Cooley to me is just sterile. I think if he was 75% as fast as he is: 1) he'd still be fucking fast 2) he could devote more time to his musical sensibility

Admit this, all you metronomers: you spend a week working your latest finger patterns up to speed, bit by bit , "for technical purposes". Then one day you record a rhythm track and blow over it, cuz' it's time you posted a new tune here or something [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] What's 100% guaranteed to be coming out of your amp?? The patterns you played all week. Musical??? I'm not so sure. Thats what metronome playing does to you. You need to work the other side of your playing, no avoiding it. It doesn't just "well up from your creative id" or whatever. Music is a complex language. Those who speak it well have put in the time in ALL the required areas.

Despite all that we all still get a little pang of jealousy when we see a faster player, but thats just a momentary thing.

There are superfast players who have it all. There are a few misguided folk though, who have the speed but nuttin' else. Cooley, Angelo, this guy, etc, these guys stink to my ears. Gimme Roth or Malmsteen any day.

WhyTF do people always bring SRV into these debates as the token "feel" guy? He was an advanced player in all respects, speed included.