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I guess if thats what you think but I still don't agree. Alot of shred sounds exactly like that to me, robotic. So your never gonna be able to really convince me that all shred has emotion because I sure as hell don't see it. There is also a difference between the player being driven by emotion and the actual music have emotion.
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they sound uninteresting and robotic because it is their style. It's called LACK of technique, yes that's right, fast scale runs and sweep picking aren't the only techniques. Their "vocabulary" is limited. Big "vocabulary" (huge bag of tricks/techniques and shit) allows express the emotions better with the musical instrument. A great example would be Steve Vai who can do a lot of different vibratos, bending, playing with different attack, sliding etc. etc. etc. all these things are great tools for expressing emotions, those robotic shredders can not do those things and because of that they sound gay.
"There is nothing more fearful than imagination without taste" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
"To be stupid, selfish and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost" - Gustave Flaubert
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Alot of shredders just try and play as fast as possible. Like its some sort of race. There is no emotion in that, just technique.
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I disagree, if they want to play as fast as possible then there is CERTANLY some emotion in there, such as "uhhh-ahhhh I can do it, I can do it, arghhhh, aaaaaahhhhh, faster faster faster, push, push puuuusssshhhh...oo boy I'm fast" [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] it is still an emotion, only different.
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I disgree, there are two kinds of playing, there is playing with emotion, and then being emotionaly driven to play. Yes everyone will play for a certain emotion, to be happy that you can do it etc. But a true master can take that emotion and make it stand out in his playing where someone can feel what he was thinking. Big difference in the two.
These are my favs! Not all shredders though! But Friedman sure is!!
Andy LaRocque
Dave Murray
Paul Masvidal
Junior Brown
Ken Nardi
Kerry King
Dave Mustaine
Marty Friedman
Paco de Lucia
And my favorite Chuck Schuldiner
Uli Roth
Eddie Van Halen
Criss Oliva
Randy Rhoads
Yngwie Malmsteen
Tony MacAlpine
Allan Holdsworth
Shawn Lane
Jason Becker
Marty Friedman
Greg Howe
Steve Smythe
Ritchie Kotzen
John Sykes
Jeff Loomis
Jeff Beck
Steve Vai
Joe Satriani
Michael Lee Firkins
Reb Beach
Olaf Lenk
Joe Stump
Andre Corbin
Tim Calvert
Chris Impelliteri
Magnus Karlsson
Gus G.
Mike Romeo
Vinnie Moore
Paul Gilbert
Steve Stevens
George Lynch
Steve Morris
Frank Marino
Zakk Wylde
Dimebag Darrel
Blues Saraceno
Joey Tafolla
Harry Cody
Jonas Hanson
James Murphy
Alexi Laiho
Roope Latava
David Gilmore
Gary Moore
Alex Scolnick
Al Petrelli
Ritchie Blackmoore
Jimmy Page
Jimi Hendrix
SRV
Michael Schenker
Akira Takasaki
Michael Angelo
Jeff Waters
Craid Goldy
Doug Aldrich
Tony Iommi
Tommy Vetrelli
John Norum
JohnPetrucci
Tore Otsby
Ronnie Le Tekro
Patrick Rondat
Nuno Bettencourt
Vivian Cambell
Kee Marcello
Adrian Vandenburg
Tony Fredianelli
James Byrd
Roland Grapow
Andy Larocque
Mike Wead
Victor Smolski
Eric Johnson
Joshua Perahia
Chris Broderick
Jarno Keskinen
Damir Uzunovic
Peter Espenoza
Pete Blakk
Michael Denner
Hank Sherman
Andre Segovia
Carlos Montoya
Al DiMeola
Scott Henderson
Stanley Jorden
Alex Masi
Axel Rudi Pell
Victor Smolski
Chris Poland
Warren DiMartini
Bruce Bouillet
Luca Turelli
Gary Werhkamp
Django Rheinhart (sp?)
Eddie Antonini
Thomas Wolf
Timo Tolki
Mark Mcgee
Jaron Sebastian
Brad Gillis
Jeff Watson
Jake E Lee
Buckethead
Alvin Lee
Brian Setzer
Jame Murphy
Phil Keagy
Magnus Nillson
Roy Z
Ralph Santolla
Vitto Bratta
Steve Lynch
and that dude in Fair Warning
Panos Arvanitis of Cusus Belli
FUCK the popularity contest polls of GW / Rolling stones and etc..Popularity and TALENT means two different things...to judge fairly one must know ALL the players!
"Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.
There's a lot of guys that can play fast - there's only so fast you can play I think before it sounds unmusical and rediculous and gets boring.
A lot of guys rattle off maching gun notes as I call them and are not musical and can't get accross the emotion in their music or technique. Many guys have terrible vibrato because they work on mostly speed.
I have to like the music and expression as well as the technique. So if I had to pick just one because his music is something I can listen to without getting bored and it keeps my interst when I listen to it - I vote JASON BECKER.
Out of that whole list..If I had to pick my favorite "shredder"..
for metal it would be Jeff Loomis.
in general..Uli Roth..
Vai is in there somewhere too..
So many great players!
"Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.
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