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  • #61
    Re: jeff loomis = amazing

    Not in any order:
    Randy Rhoads
    Criss Oliva
    EVH
    Dimebag
    Satriani
    Vai
    Lynch
    Malmsteen
    Gilbert

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    • #62
      Re: jeff loomis = amazing

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      I guess if thats what you think but I still don't agree. Alot of shred sounds exactly like that to me, robotic. So your never gonna be able to really convince me that all shred has emotion because I sure as hell don't see it. There is also a difference between the player being driven by emotion and the actual music have emotion.

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      they sound uninteresting and robotic because it is their style. It's called LACK of technique, yes that's right, fast scale runs and sweep picking aren't the only techniques. Their "vocabulary" is limited. Big "vocabulary" (huge bag of tricks/techniques and shit) allows express the emotions better with the musical instrument. A great example would be Steve Vai who can do a lot of different vibratos, bending, playing with different attack, sliding etc. etc. etc. all these things are great tools for expressing emotions, those robotic shredders can not do those things and because of that they sound gay.
      "There is nothing more fearful than imagination without taste" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

      "To be stupid, selfish and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost" - Gustave Flaubert

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      • #63
        Re: jeff loomis = amazing

        Gilbert is god-like when it comes to "shredders". NOBODY else is that clean with their alt picking. He's a freak.

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        • #64
          Re: jeff loomis = amazing

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          Alot of shredders just try and play as fast as possible. Like its some sort of race. There is no emotion in that, just technique.

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          I disagree, if they want to play as fast as possible then there is CERTANLY some emotion in there, such as "uhhh-ahhhh I can do it, I can do it, arghhhh, aaaaaahhhhh, faster faster faster, push, push puuuusssshhhh...oo boy I'm fast" [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] it is still an emotion, only different.

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          I disgree, there are two kinds of playing, there is playing with emotion, and then being emotionaly driven to play. Yes everyone will play for a certain emotion, to be happy that you can do it etc. But a true master can take that emotion and make it stand out in his playing where someone can feel what he was thinking. Big difference in the two.

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          • #65
            Re: Favorite Shredder

            These are my favs! Not all shredders though! But Friedman sure is!!
            Andy LaRocque
            Dave Murray
            Paul Masvidal
            Junior Brown
            Ken Nardi
            Kerry King
            Dave Mustaine
            Marty Friedman
            Paco de Lucia
            And my favorite Chuck Schuldiner
            I love admins!

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            • #66
              Re: Favorite Shredder

              I think I already posted in this thread before like first page, but heres again hehe

              Marty Friedman
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              Steve Vai
              Paul Gilbert
              Alex Skolnick
              Tony MacAlpine
              Chuck Schuldiner is getting there for me =]
              Alexi Laiho

              Those guys are not only all mad shredders, but make some impressive music too

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              • #67
                Re: Favorite Shredder

                Herman Li of Dragonforce, Rusty Cooley, Michael Angelo

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                • #68
                  Re: Favorite Shredder

                  Christopher Michael "Criss" Oliva...
                  Alex Skolnick ..
                  Marty Friedman

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                  • #69
                    Re: Favorite Shredder

                    Uli Roth
                    Eddie Van Halen
                    Criss Oliva
                    Randy Rhoads
                    Yngwie Malmsteen
                    Tony MacAlpine
                    Allan Holdsworth
                    Shawn Lane
                    Jason Becker
                    Marty Friedman
                    Greg Howe
                    Steve Smythe
                    Ritchie Kotzen
                    John Sykes
                    Jeff Loomis
                    Jeff Beck
                    Steve Vai
                    Joe Satriani
                    Michael Lee Firkins
                    Reb Beach
                    Olaf Lenk
                    Joe Stump
                    Andre Corbin
                    Tim Calvert
                    Chris Impelliteri
                    Magnus Karlsson
                    Gus G.
                    Mike Romeo
                    Vinnie Moore
                    Paul Gilbert
                    Steve Stevens
                    George Lynch
                    Steve Morris
                    Frank Marino
                    Zakk Wylde
                    Dimebag Darrel
                    Blues Saraceno
                    Joey Tafolla
                    Harry Cody
                    Jonas Hanson
                    James Murphy
                    Alexi Laiho
                    Roope Latava
                    David Gilmore
                    Gary Moore
                    Alex Scolnick
                    Al Petrelli
                    Ritchie Blackmoore
                    Jimmy Page
                    Jimi Hendrix
                    SRV
                    Michael Schenker
                    Akira Takasaki
                    Michael Angelo
                    Jeff Waters
                    Craid Goldy
                    Doug Aldrich
                    Tony Iommi
                    Tommy Vetrelli
                    John Norum
                    JohnPetrucci
                    Tore Otsby
                    Ronnie Le Tekro
                    Patrick Rondat
                    Nuno Bettencourt
                    Vivian Cambell
                    Kee Marcello
                    Adrian Vandenburg
                    Tony Fredianelli
                    James Byrd
                    Roland Grapow
                    Andy Larocque
                    Mike Wead
                    Victor Smolski
                    Eric Johnson
                    Joshua Perahia
                    Chris Broderick
                    Jarno Keskinen
                    Damir Uzunovic
                    Peter Espenoza
                    Pete Blakk
                    Michael Denner
                    Hank Sherman
                    Andre Segovia
                    Carlos Montoya
                    Al DiMeola
                    Scott Henderson
                    Stanley Jorden
                    Alex Masi
                    Axel Rudi Pell
                    Victor Smolski
                    Chris Poland
                    Warren DiMartini
                    Bruce Bouillet
                    Luca Turelli
                    Gary Werhkamp
                    Django Rheinhart (sp?)
                    Eddie Antonini
                    Thomas Wolf
                    Timo Tolki
                    Mark Mcgee
                    Jaron Sebastian
                    Brad Gillis
                    Jeff Watson
                    Jake E Lee
                    Buckethead
                    Alvin Lee
                    Brian Setzer
                    Jame Murphy
                    Phil Keagy
                    Magnus Nillson
                    Roy Z
                    Ralph Santolla
                    Vitto Bratta
                    Steve Lynch
                    and that dude in Fair Warning
                    Panos Arvanitis of Cusus Belli

                    FUCK the popularity contest polls of GW / Rolling stones and etc..Popularity and TALENT means two different things...to judge fairly one must know ALL the players!
                    "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
                    Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

                    "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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                    • #70
                      Re: Favorite Shredder

                      john sykes
                      doug aldritch
                      andy laroque
                      randy rhoads
                      Widow - "We have songs"

                      http://jameslugo.com/johnewooteniv.shtml

                      http://ultimateguitarsound.com

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                      • #71
                        Re: Favorite Shredder

                        oh, and kai hanson
                        Widow - "We have songs"

                        http://jameslugo.com/johnewooteniv.shtml

                        http://ultimateguitarsound.com

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                        • #72
                          Re: Favorite Shredder

                          These are the guys that do it for me:

                          Steve Vai
                          Al DiMeola
                          Randy Rhoads
                          Yngwie Malmsteen
                          Allan Holdsworth
                          Stevie Ray Vaughan
                          David Russell
                          Chris Parkening

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                          • #73
                            Re: Favorite Shredder

                            There's a lot of guys that can play fast - there's only so fast you can play I think before it sounds unmusical and rediculous and gets boring.

                            A lot of guys rattle off maching gun notes as I call them and are not musical and can't get accross the emotion in their music or technique. Many guys have terrible vibrato because they work on mostly speed.

                            I have to like the music and expression as well as the technique. So if I had to pick just one because his music is something I can listen to without getting bored and it keeps my interst when I listen to it - I vote JASON BECKER.
                            PLAY TILL U DIE !!!

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                            • #74
                              Re: Favorite Shredder

                              Out of that whole list..If I had to pick my favorite "shredder"..

                              for metal it would be Jeff Loomis.

                              in general..Uli Roth..

                              Vai is in there somewhere too..

                              So many great players!
                              "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
                              Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

                              "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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                              • #75
                                Re: Favorite Shredder

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                                Out of that whole list..If I had to pick my favorite "shredder"..

                                for metal it would be Jeff Loomis.

                                in general..Uli Roth..

                                Vai is in there somewhere too..

                                So many great players!

                                [/ QUOTE ]

                                Hm... Never listened to Jeff Loomis before. Will have to check him out.
                                PLAY TILL U DIE !!!

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