Wow, getting old is kinda cool...Music gets better

[ripley156]

I am 38...Grew-up in the thick of the hair-metal/shred scene in the 80's...

I absolutely HATED Slaughter...I mean to a degree that unrealistic...I think it stemmed from the shitty Vinnie Vincent show I saw once...

Anyways, I was just driving home and "Up All Night" came on the satellite radio...

Holy crap, lol...I was freaking loving the call-and-response bridges and the melody of the guitar solo...

"Awake from Dusk to Dawn..., Under the city lights..."

Haha, I was flipping-out, it was a ton of fun to listen to...

Maybe old-age explains why I have started to enjoy old Duran Duran and all the other 80's crap, lol! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Is this a normal phenomenon?

[siggy14]

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I hate to admit it, but i always loved that song, it was just on metal mania on saturday on VH1 Classic. However i saw them in concert in CPI on long island and his voice almost shattered my ears live in concert. Damn talk about a high pitch.

[JBall008]

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I've "fallen" into the same groove, and I love it!

PG era Mr. Big, Blue Murder, all sorts of goodies...

(it's great when hardly anybody likes what your into; used cds are cheap and easy to come by!)

[OldSchoolMetal]

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I have gotten into listening to some other types of music also. For some reason I like some of Gary Numan's stuff. And that is pretty retro!

[pro-fusion]

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Mark Slaughter's vocals always gave me a headache.

It's funny, I'm also 38 and I mostly listen to current "underground" metal, rather than the '80s stuff I grew up with. I have the opposite reaction--I'm amazed at how really cliched and formulaic a lot of the hair metal was, even though I didn't think of it that way back then. Some albums from that era have gotten better with time--stuff by Blue Murder, Scorpions, Ozzy, Sabbath and VH, to name a few off the top of my head. But so much of it sounds like the bands all used the same two or three basic song templates with just minor changes--which I think helped run that music into the ground by 1990.

[Endrik]

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I love all that cheesy 80's stuff to death

[JacksonRob]

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I still love all of the 80's-early 90's metal. Right now I can't pull TT Quick's "Metal of Honor" out of the CD player. Rough Cutt's self titled LP is another one of my favorites.

[guitarsjb]

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Mark Slaughter's vocals always gave me a headache.

It's funny, I'm also 38 and I mostly listen to current "underground" metal, rather than the '80s stuff I grew up with. I have the opposite reaction--I'm amazed at how really cliched and formulaic a lot of the hair metal was, even though I didn't think of it that way back then. Some albums from that era have gotten better with time--stuff by Blue Murder, Scorpions, Ozzy, Sabbath and VH, to name a few off the top of my head. But so much of it sounds like the bands all used the same two or three basic song templates with just minor changes--which I think helped run that music into the ground by 1990.

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I'm the same way.

[MikeE]

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I still love all of the 80's-early 90's metal. Right now I can't pull TT Quick's "Metal of Honor" out of the CD player. Rough Cutt's self titled LP is another one of my favorites.

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TT Quick, haha. My cousin used to have a jacket with a TT Quick patch on it. People would always ask who TT Quick was. We had to explain that Dave DiPietro was our cousin (my 3rd or something). Shame I never met the guy but my cousin did and said he ripped on guitar when he went to his house. His jaw was on the floor...

For those that don't know Dave gave lessons to Zakk for a while.

[Badseed]

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thats where zakk stole his squeals from, Dave DIPietro

[siggy14]

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Mark Slaughter's vocals always gave me a headache.

It's funny, I'm also 38 and I mostly listen to current "underground" metal, rather than the '80s stuff I grew up with. I have the opposite reaction--I'm amazed at how really cliched and formulaic a lot of the hair metal was, even though I didn't think of it that way back then. Some albums from that era have gotten better with time--stuff by Blue Murder, Scorpions, Ozzy, Sabbath and VH, to name a few off the top of my head. But so much of it sounds like the bands all used the same two or three basic song templates with just minor changes--which I think helped run that music into the ground by 1990.

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And this is anything new? This is how it always has been and always will be, even with songs today, you have certain groups that are great and set trends, then you have a million groups that follow that style and all sound the same.

I use to be the same as you, denied my 80's up bringing, only listened to new underground metal, then about 3 years ago that started to change. I started getting more into EMO/Rock/Screamo etc... Now dont get me wrong, i am not a groupie of that music, like i dont like every band that comes out with the emo punk thing going on, i just like the pioneer bands that are exceptional at what they do.

Example, i know non of you probaly like dashboard confessional, but when he first started doing that he had his own unique thing going, you would go to see him at all these little/mid size clubs and he would sell them out. Being in the audience was an experience all its own, because everyone would just sing word for word every song, and sometimes so loud he would just drown him and the PA out. But then he had to go and try to be like every other punk/emo band out there and put together and actuall band and start playing with electric guitars and it just kind ruined his whole vibe.

These days I am into more harder stuff, i guess you can consider it between scream and just hard rock, but once again the band really has to speak to me for me to take notice. I am the same way with some of todays newer metal, certain groups grab my attention and i enjoy them, but then all the other copy cats just turn me off.

Back to 80's metal, yeah they all followed the same formula, but it was a good formula and alot of great bands came out using it. Of course the downside is we got alot of crappy bands that just got signed and thrown on tv because record companies wanted the next big thing and really had no clue.

As to what killed 80's metal, comes back to the formula of music in general, new style comes, everyone embraces it, then everyone thinks it becomes uncool because everyone does embrace it and it loses its lack luster. Of course grundge helped because all the kids of the 80's parents were upset because mommy and daddy would rather make a million bucks then play with them.

But it comes down to the formula again, even grundge eventualy got old and boring once it became main stream and died out, which in turn gave ups rap metal, till that got old and played out etc.... I am sure you are going to see another change in music coming, the whole pop punk thing has gotten to the point where it is so huge and main stream that it will soon be shunned and something new will come out and replace it as the top dog.

[JacksonRob]

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TT Quick, haha. My cousin used to have a jacket with a TT Quick patch on it. People would always ask who TT Quick was. We had to explain that Dave DiPietro was our cousin (my 3rd or something). Shame I never met the guy but my cousin did and said he ripped on guitar when he went to his house. His jaw was on the floor...

For those that don't know Dave gave lessons to Zakk for a while.

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Dave rips!! I was always wondering why they didn't get any praise for their music. I have just about everything that they ever produced, starting from the EP to the live stuff. I have heard that they periodically get together and do reunion shows for the fun of it. [img]/images/graemlins/band.gif[/img]

[DonP]

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Three cheers for VH1C Metal Mania! I love it.

[JacksonRob]

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If it wasn't for VH1C, the old stuff would be dead and buried. I think it is the BEST damn channel on the satellite!!!!! (next to the 5 channels of PORN!!!) [img]/images/graemlins/popcorn.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/popcorn.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/popcorn.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[pro-fusion]

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And this is anything new? This is how it always has been and always will be, even with songs today, you have certain groups that are great and set trends, then you have a million groups that follow that style and all sound the same.

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That's true, but the hair metal scene was very narrowly cast both in terms of style and songwriting. And I'm just saying that most of it aged very poorly in my opinion--some of that's down to the production, but the heavily formulaic songwriting and rigid stylistic conventions play a big part, too. To my ears, most '70s hard rock/"proto-metal" has held up much better. When I first got into the more melodic side of the current metal underground, it seemed kinda retro to me until I went back and listened to a lot of '80s stuff and saw how much better many of the underground bands are now. A band like Kamelot has a distinct '80s influence, but their writing, playing and 'concept' are way beyond most of what went down in the '80s.

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I use to be the same as you, denied my 80's up bringing...

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Oh I don't deny my upbringing. Heck, I still pull out the Whitesnake albums every now and then, both to annoy the wife and because I still enjoy them. I'm just more inclined to listen to the albums that have stood the test of time, where most Dokken, Ratt (except the first album), White Lion, etc. etc. simply have not held up, to my ears at least.