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Originally posted by EndrikI was a huge fan when I was 15. I wore Metallica t-shirts with pride, I was a true rebel then
I'm not another one of those folks who thinks that everyting is a sellout and a band has to make only evil underground music.Hail yesterday
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hmm what's the problem Gary?
I was just replying to Ward's post "Finally another one who dares admit Metallica is still awsome live"
I haven't been a huge "Metallifan" for a couple of years but I don't abandon them because they have made a couple of crappy albums (according to most of the metal fans). I'm not going to compare Load with MOP, because it's ridiculous. Load is a great modern hard rock album, MOP is a metal classic. People who bash Load and calling it a sell-out is because they just don't like blues based hard rock. Zep, ZZ Top, ACDC etc. must be sell-outs too.
And I'm not gonna cry after the old-tallica either and blaming the metallicats for abondoning their "true fans" (my ass), first of all a band makes music for themselves not for the fans, every artist has the right to create exactly those sounds wich are matching with their emotions, otherwise it would be fake (true fans think that if the music isn't made for them then it's fake) and also changing musical direction, having some diversity and not reapeting the same riffs and licks allover again is a sign of artistic quality.
And I definetly didn't adopt holier-than-thou pose. I was reffering that I'm not another Metallica-bashing-trend follower wich a lot of metal fans seem to be lately. Just look the comments on blabbermoth. Maybe I should adopt holier-than-thou attitude, If everyone acts like an asshole, then so can I."There is nothing more fearful than imagination without taste" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
"To be stupid, selfish and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost" - Gustave Flaubert
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Originally posted by Endrikhmm what's the problem Gary?
I'll abandon a band if I don't like the music they're making now. I don't have to buy a bad CD out of loyalty to a band if I think they've gone sour. I stopped buying Iron Maiden stuff after Fear of the Dark. Up until that point, they were just about my favourite band ever. I got into them when Number of the Beast came out. I never accused them of selling out either. They just stopped making music that I liked. I did buy the last two albums and last few DVDs though
If the change of direction is a natural growth or evolution of the band, or the result of new members influencing the songwriting, then that's not selling out.
If the change is, as you say, because the band is making music for themselves, then that's fine. If the new direction the band takes just happen to sell, then that's fine too. Excellent, actually, because it will help fund future releases, and fans of the band don't have to worry so much that the group will eventually quit music because it's more profitable to sell insurance than play music. I'm all for Nevermore's continued musical growth and success. They make money, they make more albums for me to listen to.
Judas Priest's sound definitely changed from their formative years through to the 80s. Didn't sell out - just changed. Some people didn't like the change, some were introduced to the band because they liked the new sound. A lot of folks got off AC/DC when Brian Johnston came on board - didn't like the new sound of the band. Looking back though, AC/DC didn't really change a whole lot.
Where a band sells out is when they radically change style to follow a trend or chase the consumer's dollar. If AC/DC started copying The Donnas or The Darkness (both bands I don't mind, but distinctly more commercially viable than AC/DC these days) because that's what charting, blues rock wise. Then I would accuse them of selling out. But not because they're playing blues based hard rock.
I mean, that'd be like KISS playing disco or something. Could you possibly imagine that?!
I don't really care if people consider Metallica sellouts or not. I was never a huge fan anyway. I can still listen to their early stuff, even though I can't stand their new (Load and later) releases.
But preferring their old stuff to their new doesn't make me a trend-hopping Metallica-basher either.
anyway, I'm good with however you view folks' opinions of old vs new Tallica. I was more prompted by your comments that you were a true rebel in your Metallica shirt anyway. Seems there were a hell of a lot of rebels around back then. You all should've started a movement or somethingHail yesterday
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Originally posted by VitaminGNo
I mean, that'd be like KISS playing disco or something. Could you possibly imagine that?!
http://www.jcfonline.com/forums/show...t=55649&page=2"Quiet, numbskulls, I'm broadcasting!" -Moe Howard, "Micro-Phonies" (1945)
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G, yeah I agree with you, thanks for explaining, you made some good points. I don't buy albums with music wich doesn't appeal to me either. I'm a huge Motley fan but I think Generation Swine sucks ass, I don't want to own that album. But If they come out with some cool new stuff then I'm definetly gonna support it.
Anyway the word "SELLOUT" has a positive meaning in my book starting today. It's the word that is used to describe artist who are sucessful.
Hey I want to be sellout too
btw, I'm still a rebel and a misfit
I'm never gonna feel embarassed or retarded for liking certain stuff (like Metallica), there are always some groups of people with weird mentality, like they have certain criterias that you should not like some stuff and If you do then you are lower then us or some shit like that.
Anyway have a great summer guys, I'm very busy from this weekend again.
"There is nothing more fearful than imagination without taste" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
"To be stupid, selfish and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost" - Gustave Flaubert
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I just watched Metallica live @ RAR 2006. It's much much better than Metallica @ Rar 2003..
they really practiced no doubt about that.. cool setlist.. solos are slightly better. I noticed something, there is a connection between the quality of Kirk's solo and the guitar he plays.. everytime he has a les paul he messes up the solo..."I hate these filthy neutrals! With enemies, you know where they stand. But with neutrals... who knows? It sickens me!"
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Originally posted by diffrent stringsand Cliff Burton was there best bass player ever.I feel my soul go cold... only the dead are smiling.
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