Cannibal Corpse "clean" boost....

[Chad]

I just bought a Boss MT-2 from a forum member and am wanting to try clean boosting my Dual Rectifier with it a la Cannibal Corpse.

Does anybody know what settings they used on the MT-2? I assume level was all the way up and gain all the way down, but what about the EQ?

[Dreamland_Rebel]

CC use crate.
no boost necessary

[rps14a]

CC use crate.
no boost necessary

i think jack was the main crate user, could be wrong though


chris

[IrfaanSE801]

Pat uses his Boogies with a MT-2 boost live from what I've heard, but I don't know the settings. From what I understand, the majority of people that use it as a boost just use it for the EQ and just a touch of gain

[DeathDaily]

Jack Owen was the Crate user, I think they have Pat listed as an endorsee because of occasional cab usage. With the MT2, turn the gain all the way down (still dirty on my old one), level a little over half, eq to taste. Rob Barrett uses the same setup as well, so the basic rhythm sound for the bands entire catalog is easy with that setup.

[Fragle]

ok, lots of wrong information here, except for the last post.

pat is using a blackface triple rectifier 2ch set to modern and silicon diode, with the mt2 as a boost (level cranked, gain almost off but not quite, EQ i don't know). also, he runs his gain VERY high.
rob is using a very similar setup, with a dual recto being the core of his sound rather than the blackface triple. other than that, it's very similar to pats rig and settings - pat's sound is even more brutal with more gain and bass...very thick to the point that it's almost flubby, despite of the fact that pat prefers "bright" flying V's in contrast to rob's "thick" les pauls/LP shaped guitars.
both use EMG 81 pickups....pat used to run the emg 707 in his sevenstrings but pretty much always recorded with a 6 string guitar loaded with an 81 to get that true 81 sound....i think nowadays he's either using 6 strings or the 7 string loaded with the emg 81-7

as for jack, the heart of his setup was the digitech 2101 which was rebuilt a couple of times. he also used schecter guitars with seymour duncan pickups, as well as a brian moore 6string. that's about all i know about his sound/gear, though....

hope this helps some....regarding the exact mt2 settings, just toy around with the EQ but try to steer clear of boosting any frequency *hint*

[Chad]

Thanks for the info, fellas. I'll play around with things. I'm kinda surprised that Pat cranks the gain on his Triple. That's generally a "no no" in trying to get good tone with a Recto. Are you saying that Rob boosts with an MT-2 as well?

BTW, on the MT-2, I've been running the mid control at about 11 o'clock on both the inside and outside knobs.

[Fragle]

yes, rob's also using the mt2 as a boost.
as for the midrange controls, without getting into details i'd say you're definitely on the right track.

and yes, i was also surprised by the high gain levels they're using...both crank their gain, but pat even adds some MORE using the mt2 gain control. however, asked neil kernon about his setup and tone, and he confirmed the usage of very high gain levels. the thing is, pat plays REALLY hard but also REALLY tight which kinda makes up for the otherwise flubby highgain.

[bratfink]

Ok Ok, can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?

I read this and thought "I have an MT2, I could always try that for a lead boost". So I plug it all in, Level all the way up, gain almost all the way down and the eq wherever. I am playing a Soloist with active mid boost (JE1200) and the amp is an old Peavey Bandit 112 (in the high gain jack, naturally).

Now I don't know if it's just me but turning the MT-2 on does nothing in terms of a boost, it sounds the same, albeit with a slightly different tone created by the eq.

Any ideas?

[Dreamland_Rebel]

clean boost is used for driving the front end of a tube amp. overloading the input to drive the tubes into a natural distortion.

ok so they're using boogie w/ boosts now. but for the 1st 4 albums, and tours for those albums, it was all crate and ampeg and nothing but. i even had a long converstion with them about it on the tomb of the mutilated tour. "they just have the Cannible Corpse sound" - Alex Webster.

[Fragle]

yeah, but you forgot to mention that the first 4 CC records sound like utter garbage

[toejam]

as for jack, the heart of his setup was the digitech 2101 which was rebuilt a couple of times. he also used schecter guitars with seymour duncan pickups, as well as a brian moore 6string. that's about all i know about his sound/gear, though....

He used an old Ibanez Universe 7-string, too.

[Fragle]

thanks...actually, on the wretched spawn dvd he said that the universe is his main recording guitar

[Nazgul]

but for the 1st 4 albums, and tours for those albums, it was all crate and ampeg and nothing but. i even had a long converstion with them about it on the tomb of the mutilated tour. "they just have the Cannible Corpse sound" - Alex Webster.

I don't know about ampeg, but they used crate gx130c heads and marshalls 8100s. I have a bootleg video of one gig and you can see both guitarists playing through crate gx130c. not through one, lol, each has his own.
at one point later they used some crate tube amps too...crate gt stealth series or something.

[DeathDaily]

Now I don't know if it's just me but turning the MT-2 on does nothing in terms of a boost, it sounds the same, albeit with a slightly different tone created by the eq.

Any ideas?

If I remember correctly, the bandit is SS, which doesn't respond to boosts in the same way. Pat uses that into a recto with the gain dimed, so at that point it wont provide a huge jump in gain, just a different tone that's a little more lively, like running emg's @ 18v. Oh yeah, Pat uses the emg boost preamp in his v's too.