The making of a HUGE rack (Petrucci)

[SpiralArchitect]

As far as I know this is his OLD rig from the six degrees of I forget the rest of the title CD.

His new rack is a little smaller, and hopefully has a BETTER wiring job then just random lengths of shitty planet breaks cables.

Anyhow, I used to like JP's tone, but he hasn't progressed much since Scene's which to me is the pinaccle of his tone..to me....that is....

anyhow, good to see this none the less!

C

[GodOfRhythm]

As far as I know this is his OLD rig from the six degrees of I forget the rest of the title CD.

His new rack is a little smaller, and hopefully has a BETTER wiring job then just random lengths of shitty planet breaks cables.

Anyhow, I used to like JP's tone, but he hasn't progressed much since Scene's which to me is the pinaccle of his tone..to me....that is....

anyhow, good to see this none the less!

C

The 6DOIT (Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence) rig was three IIC+'s (1 for cleans and 2 for rhythm/leads or as poweramps for a custom preamp).

The current rig for Octavarium is pretty much the same as the Train Of Though rig (which is the one in the video), there might have been small changes, but minor at most. Currently, though, he used smaller (back-up) rigs for the South American and Asian tour, perhaps because they were easier to ship, were lighter etc...



6DOIT Rig:




ToT/8VARIUM Rig:



+ the entire seperate LoneStar rig for cleans.

[Endrik]

I haven't understood his Interface system yet.

I know with CAE stuff you must have amp switcher, effect controller, midi interface etc, units.

Petrucci has a Mesa amp switcher. But there must be some unit wich is connected with effect units and goes to amps' loops and also to footswitching jacks to change channels and then goes to the cabinets.
I read on his homepage that there is a custom Mark Snyder interface on his rig but I haven't seen wich one it is.

[GodOfRhythm]

I haven't understood his Interface system yet.

I know with CAE stuff you must have amp switcher, effect controller, midi interface etc, units.

Petrucci has a Mesa amp switcher. But there must be some unit wich is connected with effect units and goes to amps' loops and also to footswitching jacks to change channels and then goes to the cabinets.
I read on his homepage that there is a custom Mark Snyder interface on his rig but I haven't seen wich one it is.

My guess is it's the green whatcha-ma-call-it on the first pic. I've heard people say it's actually a custom pre-amp, but it's one of the only things I can't say of what the hell it is, so my vote goes to that.

[MBreinin]

Geez, does he really need all of that shit?

Some of the best live tones I have ever heard were amp+chord+guitar.

Mike

[Endrik]

Petrucci has one of the best tones IMO
So does Gilmour with his HUGE rack

I would take that kind of rack over simple setup anyday, but it costs TOO MUCH.

[GodOfRhythm]

Well, having been to quite a few DT shows now and hearing their albums, songs and whatnot I can understand the need for such a rack.

They have like a gazillion different toneswitches, nuances in tone, different voicings, etc etc in just one song, extrapolate that to an entire catalogue (they pretty much play every/any song from their backcatalogue live, the setlists vary a lot from night to night). So basically he's got every sound as close as it can be, to the album, in there and all accesible through a giant floorboard. So I guess that's where the need for a fridge sized rack comes from.

I do agree though, it's ridiculously gigantic.

If you've ever been to a DT show, his tone is always SO GOOD and balanced, fitting in perfectly with the rest of the instruments too, NOWADAYS!

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Back on the I&W tour, his rhythm sound was horrible. He basically used a triaxis and ran a clean sound + a typical distorted rhythm tone. I've heard that before and it can be amazing, but there it sounded like someone was grinding cement or something, not pleasant at all. While his leadtone was still quite good.

[MBreinin]

Well, I understand the need for that shit based on their/his music...but christ...that is absurd.

The best live tones I have ever heard, not in order:

1. SRV;
2. Eric Johnson;
3. David Gilmour

Of these three, SRV was a guitar into a couple of pedals and then into amps. Eric has a "rig" but it is so old school it is hilarious...compared to Petrucci's it is an old Apple 2E, whereas Petrucci's rig could launch the space shuttle. Gilmour's rig was a rack job with his HiWatts and the Cornish pedal board. This was from the '88 tour. That tone was sick.

Mike

[Endrik]

I really dig Eric's rig because of his vintage tube pedals, tape delays and all the other cool stuff.



btw. one of the best live tones I've heard was John Scofield's (nothing special on the albums tho) he had a Vox AC 30 combo and two office desk size pedalboards full of bazillion different stomp boxes, loopers etc.

[GodOfRhythm]

Well, I understand the need for that shit based on their/his music...but christ...that is absurd.

The best live tones I have ever heard, not in order:

1. SRV;
2. Eric Johnson;
3. David Gilmour

Of these three, SRV was a guitar into a couple of pedals and then into amps. Eric has a "rig" but it is so old school it is hilarious...compared to Petrucci's it is an old Apple 2E, whereas Petrucci's rig could launch the space shuttle. Gilmour's rig was a rack job with his HiWatts and the Cornish pedal board. This was from the '88 tour. That tone was sick.

Mike

+100 on Gilmour. He's got spinechilling tone. Although he could cut back on the treble/high frequencies a little bit, imho, sounds a little brittle to me.

[Endrik]

http://www.petecornish.co.uk/pfrig.html
http://www.mikesguitarsite.co.uk/gea...e=guitars_amps
http://www.mikesguitarsite.co.uk/gea...p?page=effects

[MBreinin]

+100 on Gilmour. He's got spinechilling tone. Although he could cut back on the treble/high frequencies a little bit, imho, sounds a little brittle to me.

In 1988 it wasn't..it was really smooth..must have been the EMGs he was using. That tone was just enormous...it penetrated your soul.

Mike

[Endrik]

Luke has some pretty sweet stuff too
http://www.stevelukather.net/Picture.aspx?id=34


Mike, he uses EMG because active pickups' signal doesn't get lost in the huge rack system as much as passives'

[Shawn Lutz]

kudos to John for using the right brand of amps

wheres the Marshall, VHT, Bonger and Splawn :ROTF:

[Endrik]

wheres the Marshall, VHT, Bonger and Splawn :ROTF:

in garbage can :ROTF: