G3 tones

[thebisch]

I have the G3 DVD with Satch/Via/Yngwie. IMO Satch's tone SUCKS! At least on that DVD. It is buzzy and fuzzy. Terrible.

[Endrik]

I have some old DLR and Whitesnake bootlegs, sometimes Steve was so fucking crazy that his show was wilder than Angus Young, The Nuge, Townshend or Yngwie has ever tone.

[Model 6 Matt]

I'll never be able to watch vai the same again.......

[wicked_lester]

I have the G3 DVD with Satch/Via/Yngwie. IMO Satch's tone SUCKS! At least on that DVD. It is buzzy and fuzzy. Terrible.

It's been horrible since he's been using that Peavy, imho.

[wicked_lester]

LOL! Pretty funny about Vai!!!

Yeah I know Malmsteem overplays. I totally agree. Its that same on every song - I know. I get tired of listening to more than one song by him. But he can play though.

I attribute some of Satch's and Vai's tones to the Ibanez products they play. Listen to Petrucci also - Ibanez always has that sound to me - modern but thin and sterile. 9 out of 10 times I can tell when someone is playing and Ibanez. I don't mean to bash them - they just have a certain sound to them.

Malmsteem has that pussy kick too - bugs the shit out of my girlfriend when we go see him. She can't stand that pussy kick or his stage demeanor.

If you're referring to the G3 stuff, Petrucci has been playing an EBMM signature for a while now.

[wicked_lester]

I will always take the guy that gets tone with fingers instead of effects. Joe and Steve rely too much on effects. Vai can get a lot of sounds from his guitar but its whammy and tricks and squeels etc....

Steve has built his style using certain tools. His use of the whammy bar was/is very inventive...it's not like he just dumps the low e string with the bar all the time like "ACME 80's rock guitarist". He actually manipulates a melody with it using a sustainer.

I think he figured out a way to do something different than other players and that's pretty damn smart, imho. However, I think Steve is much more than his tricks...give him a hardtail guitar and a tube amp and he'll still rock your face off.

[MBreinin]

Steve has built his style using certain tools. His use of the whammy bar was/is very inventive...it's not like he just dumps the low e string with the bar all the time like "ACME 80's rock guitarist". He actually manipulates a melody with it using a sustainer.

I think he figured out a way to do something different than other players and that's pretty damn smart, imho. However, I think Steve is much more than his tricks...give him a hardtail guitar and a tube amp and he'll still rock your face off.

Steve Vai is not human. If you ask me, he is probably the most competent rock guitarist alive today. I don't think there is any trick, technique or style that Steve could not only master, but be innovative within as well. With that said, much of his music does grate on me, because it is out there...while some I am just stunned by. He is a stupendous entertainer as well. He is not my favorite guitar player, but I give the guy the respect he deserves.

Mike

[khabibissell]

Agreed. Vai is a great entertainer, and one hell of a musician... not just a guitarist.

But as stated above, he can get too adventurous. His style is an aquired taste to say the least. He defnitely wears his Zappa influence on his sleeve.

[shredmonster]

Agreed. Vai is a great entertainer, and one hell of a musician... not just a guitarist.

But as stated above, he can get too adventurous. His style is an aquired taste to say the least. He defnitely wears his Zappa influence on his sleeve.

Yeah I have a hard time getting into a lot of his stuff. Although he does have some really great songs also - Tender Surrender, For the Love of God, etc...
Tender Surrender is an awesome piece of writing.

[MBreinin]

Yeah I have a hard time getting into a lot of his stuff. Although he does have some really great songs also - Tender Surrender, For the Love of God, etc...
Tender Surrender is an awesome piece of writing.

Funny, I am actually listening to that at this moment. It is an amazing song.

Mike

[Endrik]

I like Steve's weird stuff A LOT. His "out there" sounds suit well with my emotions and whatnot. He is one of the few instrumentalists I still listen to, he is like Schonberg of guitar. Guitar solos are only a small part of his whole creation, you have to listen to the whole band.

You got crazy jazz, prog and funk rhythms blended together with modern classical music chord progressions and on the top of it you got oriental melodies and experimental soundscapes. Who else is doing that shit?
Steve is not just a player and songwriter, he is an experimentalist.

I can't listen to most of the instrumental guitarists because there's just some guitar solos over a lame backing track. Steve is offering me something that the others don't have.

[twisterlemonade]

I like Steve's weird stuff A LOT. His "out there" sounds suit well with my emotions and whatnot. He is one of the few instrumentalists I still listen to, he is like Schonberg of guitar. Guitar solos are only a small part of his whole creation, you have to listen to the whole band.

You got crazy jazz, prog and funk rhythms blended together with modern classical music chord progressions and on the top of it you got oriental melodies and experimental soundscapes. Who else is doing that shit?
Steve is not just a player and songwriter, he is an experimentalist.

I can't listen to most of the instrumental guitarists because there's just some guitar solos over a lame backing track. Steve is offering me something that the others don't have.

I couldn't agree with you more. Of course,I like Steve's more "pop" songs too,but the vocal songs on Fire Garden for example I like least. Experimental music is something to get used to and now that kind of music is normal for me. "Building The Church" is one of the greatest works of music IMO.

Back to the topic. I really have liked Satch's tone always. Same goes for Steve,it's beautiful and expressive. I can't say anything about the first G3 DVD since Eric's music is quite different so the tone shouldn't really be compared to Steve's or Joe's. On Live In Denver,I think Yngwie has the worst. It's definetly not bad,but not as "singing" really. John's tone on Tokyo isn't bad,but compared to Steve's and Joe's,it doesn't have the magic.

[akoch]

For pure tone my vote goes to Malmsteen: 15 years later it is still my ideal one - feel, organic, rich, expressive.

Music - Malmsteen and Vai.

Technic - Malmsteen and Vai.

Some of the Malmsteen richness actually can be found with EJ, I like him for his tone manipulation.

Somebody was bushing Ibanez here, sorry - it made me laugh. For the life of me I can't find any real differences in construction etc between Ibanez (which one/model btw?) and Jackson, or Fender. Pickups come and go, the wood and construction stays. I've played enough different guitars, none of my Ibanezes and Jacksons sound alike.

[horns666]

There is supposed to be a European G3 with Uli Roth..

I want to see THAT!!

that was a while back..there's never any mention of that...was it just rumor??

[horns666]

I guess not...

Joe , Mike and Uli..1998???

http://ufo.dave-wood.org/g3/ukpage3.html

I've seen Satch, Vai, Johnson, YJM , Schenker, Petrucci..all are great..but Uli crushes them all IMO!!!

That dude just gives me the fuggin' goosebumps..like no other!!

He's the only dude on the planet that ever gave me goosebumps..is that gay??

Could I be gay for Uli Roth..???